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| piano*cello*sax*boy |
Jun 24 2009, 09:48 PM
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Hi all,
What would you say is a reasonable tempo for this piece as it has the performance deirection of Allegro molto e con brio. Would a crotechet = 140 be ok? Many thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
| oldnotes |
Jun 24 2009, 10:18 PM
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My Augeners edition shows minim = 69, BUT, it could be a dotted minim. My edition is well over 100 years old and there seems to be a small dot after the minim symbal. It could just be a mark on the paper, I'd be interested to know myself if anyone can confirm.
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| fsharpminor |
Jun 25 2009, 07:37 AM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5643 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Heswall, Wirral (originally Keighley, Yorks) Member No.: 7089 |
Edited from earlier post which I deleted 'cos it was a load of mathematical twaddle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
My recording of Bernard Roberts on Nimbus takes 5 min 57 (inc the repeat) for 388 bars which is 65 bars/min (or dotted minims) or 195 crotchets/ min, (so 140 crotchets is very slow.) Oldnotes edition probably is dotted minim = 69, a touch faster. I play it a bit quicker than that , about 75 bars per minute. |
| oldnotes |
Jun 25 2009, 04:51 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 9-April 08 From: North Yorkshire, by the sea. Member No.: 28524 |
Thanks - obviously a dotted minim then
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| Cadence |
Jun 25 2009, 07:03 PM
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I assum you're just asking about the first mov't?
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| piano*cello*sax*boy |
Jun 25 2009, 07:08 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 21-July 08 From: South Wales Member No.: 35662 |
Yes I am just on about the first movement, it does seem 140 is a bit slow I will have to work on speeding this up. Thanks all.
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| piano*cello*sax*boy |
Jun 25 2009, 07:56 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 21-July 08 From: South Wales Member No.: 35662 |
Well...I've had a little play, and I can get it to 184 crotchets. Do you think this would be a good enough tempo for a first performance of this in a school concert?
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| fsharpminor |
Jun 25 2009, 08:20 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5643 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Heswall, Wirral (originally Keighley, Yorks) Member No.: 7089 |
Yes I think that would sound OK
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| piano*cello*sax*boy |
Jun 25 2009, 08:32 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 21-July 08 From: South Wales Member No.: 35662 |
I do have another couple of weeks, so may be able to get it up to the exact tempo, surprisingly it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be to get it up to that speed.
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| Frederic Chopin |
Jun 26 2009, 01:57 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1806 Joined: 25-December 05 From: Bristol, UK (via Zelazowa Wola) Member No.: 5637 |
A tempo of around crotchet = 180 or even just over would be fine. Good luck in your preparation! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piano.gif)
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