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#1 oldromola

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 09:18

Can anybody tell me what is the difference between these two models apart from (a) the price and (b) the fact that the 'R13 Prestige' has a low Eb left hand key?
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 13:22

If you look down this page it gives the differences. Is this the kind of thing you needed?

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 20:49

That's a good comparison : the R13 definitely has a brighter sound, which I personally prefer. smile.gif
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 22:52

I've grown to hate my Prestige and don't play it at all now. I went home at the weekend and picked it up and disliked it even more! I much prefer my Selmer 10S smile.gif
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 22:58

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QUOTE(Appassionata @ Feb 24 2010, 11:52 PM) View Post

I've grown to hate my Prestige and don't play it at all now. I went home at the weekend and picked it up and disliked it even more! I much prefer my Selmer 10S smile.gif

Sad to hear this, Appassionata. sad.gif I received the following from BerkshireSon last week (he has RC Prestige clarinets):
"It struck me again tonight how lucky I am to have such lovely instruments to play on, and how much more enjoyable it is to play on instruments you love."

It's so important to like the sound you're making, so well worth spending a lot of time choosing before you take the plunge on buying a new instrument.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 23:16

QUOTE(Appassionata @ Feb 24 2010, 10:52 PM) View Post

I've grown to hate my Prestige and don't play it at all now. I went home at the weekend and picked it up and disliked it even more! I much prefer my Selmer 10S smile.gif


That's interesting, Appassionata. What is it about the Prestige that you don't like?
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 19:37

QUOTE(barry-clari @ Feb 24 2010, 11:16 PM) View Post

QUOTE(Appassionata @ Feb 24 2010, 10:52 PM) View Post

I've grown to hate my Prestige and don't play it at all now. I went home at the weekend and picked it up and disliked it even more! I much prefer my Selmer 10S smile.gif


That's interesting, Appassionata. What is it about the Prestige that you don't like?


Less responsive and I don't like the keywork.
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 20:26

QUOTE(Appassionata @ Feb 25 2010, 07:37 PM) View Post

QUOTE(barry-clari @ Feb 24 2010, 11:16 PM) View Post

QUOTE(Appassionata @ Feb 24 2010, 10:52 PM) View Post

I've grown to hate my Prestige and don't play it at all now. I went home at the weekend and picked it up and disliked it even more! I much prefer my Selmer 10S smile.gif


That's interesting, Appassionata. What is it about the Prestige that you don't like?


Less responsive and I don't like the keywork.


I don't find the Prestige nearly as responsive as the standard R13, it's a lot harder work to get the sound I want. Looking at the fact you like the Selmer, and not the Buffet, yes, I can see that, because I'm not a fan of Selmer keywork (being an R13 player). I also, good as they are, dislike Selmer clarinet mouthpieces with a passion...
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 14:36

This is all very interesting, and seems to demonstrate that paying quite a lot more for a Prestige doesn't necessarily bring much, if any, improvement. I for one am sure I can live without the extra left hand Ab/Eb key.

Can anyone hazard a guess as to why the Prestige is more expensive apart from the extra key?



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Posted 26 February 2010 - 14:42

QUOTE(oldromola @ Feb 26 2010, 02:36 PM) View Post

Can anyone hazard a guess as to why the Prestige is more expensive apart from the extra key?


It's also to do with the wood being, according to Buffet, of better quality than the standard R13. All it does for me is to make it feel heavier and harder work to play...

You also get two barrels.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 16:10

QUOTE(barry-clari @ Feb 26 2010, 02:42 PM) View Post

QUOTE(oldromola @ Feb 26 2010, 02:36 PM) View Post

Can anyone hazard a guess as to why the Prestige is more expensive apart from the extra key?


It's also to do with the wood being, according to Buffet, of better quality than the standard R13. All it does for me is to make it feel heavier and harder work to play...

You also get two barrels.


I didn't get two barrels!

I have a Vandoren M15 mouthpiece - never tried the Selmer one. However I like Selmer saxophone mouthpieces! I don't like R13 clarinets though either, as I tried a pupil's one recently.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 16:24

QUOTE(Appassionata @ Feb 26 2010, 04:10 PM) View Post

QUOTE(barry-clari @ Feb 26 2010, 02:42 PM) View Post

QUOTE(oldromola @ Feb 26 2010, 02:36 PM) View Post

Can anyone hazard a guess as to why the Prestige is more expensive apart from the extra key?


It's also to do with the wood being, according to Buffet, of better quality than the standard R13. All it does for me is to make it feel heavier and harder work to play...

You also get two barrels.


I didn't get two barrels!


Must be a fairly recent thing then : most Prestige outfits I've seen of late have two barrels smile.gif

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I have a Vandoren M15 mouthpiece - never tried the Selmer one. However I like Selmer saxophone mouthpieces! I don't like R13 clarinets though either, as I tried a pupil's one recently.


Selmer saxophones/mouthpieces : different kettle of fish. I really like both, and very much would like to get a Selmer sax of some description, one day...

I suspect the keywork issue will turn you off most Buffet clarinets, Appassionata.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 18:24

With all this discussion of Selmer v Buffet may I put in a quick word for Yamaha here. I have a fairly up market Yamaha clarinet - the SEV which is in the same price bracket as the R!3 - and I do like it. When David Cambell played it for me it sounded even better! However I occasionally wonder what I might be missing - if anything - with an R13.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 18:26

QUOTE(oldromola @ Feb 26 2010, 06:24 PM) View Post

With all this discussion of Selmer v Buffet may I put in a quick word for Yamaha here. I have a fairly up market Yamaha clarinet - the SEV which is in the same price bracket as the R!3 - and I do like it. When David Cambell played it for me it sounded even better! However I occasionally wonder what I might be missing - if anything - with an R13.


Six of one, half a dozen of the other : it depends on your personal tastes, oldromola. smile.gif
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