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X Factor, Autotune?

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Maria	Aug 22 2010, 05:52 PM Post #1
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 23-August 08 From: Midlands Member No.: 37965	A couple of people were commenting on Facebook or Twitter yesterday about autotune being used on the X Factor and I'm watching it now and it does sound a little bit in places like there might be some sort of effect on the voice. I'm totally not knowledgeable about these things and am wondering if anyone can clarify for me please?

meerkat	Aug 22 2010, 08:13 PM Post #2
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2144 Joined: 20-December 05 From: Crawling on the planet's face Member No.: 5616	http://watchwithmothers.net/2010/08/22/new...utotune-deceit/ It's really best not to take this show remotely seriously from a singing point of view. Except perhaps as a 'what not to do' warning.

barry-clari	Aug 22 2010, 08:23 PM Post #3
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40570 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(meerkat @ Aug 22 2010, 09:13 PM) http://watchwithmothers.net/2010/08/22/new...utotune-deceit/ It's really best not to take this show remotely seriously from a singing point of view. Except perhaps as a 'what not to do' warning. Would be interested to know if there are any singers from previous series of the show that you thought had a good voice, meerkat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (with apologies to the OP for the slight offtopicness) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Maria	Aug 22 2010, 08:31 PM Post #4
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 23-August 08 From: Midlands Member No.: 37965	Thanks for the link. Crazy, eh? Not massively surprised but I must admit I was a little shocked that it's happening at such an early stage in the auditions. QUOTE(barry-clari @ Aug 22 2010, 09:23 PM) QUOTE(meerkat @ Aug 22 2010, 09:13 PM) http://watchwithmothers.net/2010/08/22/new...utotune-deceit/ It's really best not to take this show remotely seriously from a singing point of view. Except perhaps as a 'what not to do' warning. Would be interested to know if there are any singers from previous series of the show that you thought had a good voice, meerkat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (with apologies to the OP for the slight offtopicness) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) No problem! There have certainly been people I've thought were good, though I guess it depends on how much production there was on the voice.

meerkat	Aug 22 2010, 10:59 PM Post #5
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2144 Joined: 20-December 05 From: Crawling on the planet's face Member No.: 5616	Do you remember Brenda, Barry, from a few seasons ago? I liked her. The ones I like tend to get knocked out pretty early on, because they don't fit the criteria for Simon Cowell's 'complete package'. I stopped watching a few years ago though. I think the last one I watched was the one Leona Lewis won, and I found about the last five of that year's finalists really lacklustre. What do you think? Were there any you especially liked?

Maria	Aug 23 2010, 03:08 AM Post #6
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 23-August 08 From: Midlands Member No.: 37965	I think I do remember Brenda, yes. I quite liked her too. The only who stands out for me who I've particularly liked over the last few years is Alexandra Burke. There have been others I've not minded or quite liked but noone else who I've really liked.

barry-clari	Aug 23 2010, 08:13 AM Post #7
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40570 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(meerkat @ Aug 22 2010, 11:59 PM) Do you remember Brenda, Barry, from a few seasons ago? I liked her. The ones I like tend to get knocked out pretty early on, because they don't fit the criteria for Simon Cowell's 'complete package'. I stopped watching a few years ago though. I think the last one I watched was the one Leona Lewis won, and I found about the last five of that year's finalists really lacklustre. What do you think? Were there any you especially liked? Oh yes, Brenda - I wanted her to win (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Alexandra is, in my opinion, a pretty good singer, but I'm really struggling to think of any others, and last year's crop I thought were generally average...

Maria	Aug 23 2010, 10:52 AM Post #8
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 23-August 08 From: Midlands Member No.: 37965	Yeah, I thought there were a lot with nice voices but nothing 'wow'. Funnily enough, this issue has just been on the news.

barry-clari	Aug 23 2010, 11:03 AM Post #9
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40570 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(Maria @ Aug 23 2010, 11:52 AM) Yeah, I thought there were a lot with nice voices but nothing 'wow'. Maybe they'll find another star in 2011... Looking forward to hearing you sing in November, Maria (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Maria	Aug 23 2010, 11:21 AM Post #10
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 23-August 08 From: Midlands Member No.: 37965	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Aug 23 2010, 12:03 PM) QUOTE(Maria @ Aug 23 2010, 11:52 AM) Yeah, I thought there were a lot with nice voices but nothing 'wow'. Maybe they'll find another star in 2011... Looking forward to hearing you sing in November, Maria (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Arghhhh!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well, I definitely won't be wow but we'll give it a go, eh??!! Haha!

HelenVJ	Aug 23 2010, 01:53 PM Post #11
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 947 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 1265	Whatever happened to Leon Jackson? ( and Shayne Ward? Steve Brookstein? ) Simon is the first to admit that he can't sing and that he doesn't really know anything about music - and then claims he has an ear for what the public wants! But does he, though? As for the auto-tune, I wonder what some singers would have sounded like without it? The Zimbabwean girl seemed to have a very strange production anyway. No idea whether the very obvious auto-tune made her sound more or less weird.. I blame Glee.

Maria	Aug 23 2010, 06:21 PM Post #12
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 23-August 08 From: Midlands Member No.: 37965	That's definitely true. I think what Simon Cowell is good at is finding acts who are entertaining for a few weeks. There haven't been any acts who've come out of the X Factor who are likely to be around in 10 years time. But there we go, I guess you have to take it with a pinch of salt.

barry-clari	Aug 23 2010, 09:42 PM Post #13
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40570 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(Maria @ Aug 23 2010, 07:21 PM) That's definitely true. I think what Simon Cowell is good at is finding acts who are entertaining for a few weeks. There haven't been any acts who've come out of the X Factor who are likely to be around in 10 years time. But there we go, I guess you have to take it with a pinch of salt. Possibly Leona and Alexandra might stay the course. Not sure about anyone else...

Juniper	Aug 23 2010, 09:47 PM Post #14
Unregistered	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Aug 23 2010, 10:42 PM) QUOTE(Maria @ Aug 23 2010, 07:21 PM) That's definitely true. I think what Simon Cowell is good at is finding acts who are entertaining for a few weeks. There haven't been any acts who've come out of the X Factor who are likely to be around in 10 years time. But there we go, I guess you have to take it with a pinch of salt. Possibly Leona and Alexandra might stay the course. Not sure about anyone else... Reckon Olly will too and JLS, all though obviously they were runners up. Brenda has been in the West End's Chicago and is joining We will Rock You so has been more successful than most of the winners (deserved it too) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

barry-clari	Aug 23 2010, 09:50 PM Post #15
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40570 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(Juniper @ Aug 23 2010, 10:47 PM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Aug 23 2010, 10:42 PM) QUOTE(Maria @ Aug 23 2010, 07:21 PM) That's definitely true. I think what Simon Cowell is good at is finding acts who are entertaining for a few weeks. There haven't been any acts who've come out of the X Factor who are likely to be around in 10 years time. But there we go, I guess you have to take it with a pinch of salt. Possibly Leona and Alexandra might stay the course. Not sure about anyone else... Reckon Olly will too and JLS, all though obviously they were runners up. Oh yes, JLS : who are selling out the O2 (Millennium Dome)... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE Brenda has been in the West End's Chicago and is joining We will Rock You so has been more successful than most of the winners (deserved it too) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Liked Brenda : should have won her year, in my opinion. Will be interested to see how she does in We Will Rock You... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sing.gif)

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