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| Martin.Walters |
Oct 5 2010, 10:42 PM
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Hi people.
I have been learning Chopins 09no2 for quite sometime. I have decided to work at the hard parts and having a frustrating moment. It is located a couple of bars after the 1st demi-semi-quaver run. So the time is 12/8 and the left hand keeps a consistent rhythm. Now there are 4 notes in the right hand that need to be played into 3/8 while playing 3 notes in the left hand. How do I go about the process of learning this sort of thing? |
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| Ribble |
Oct 6 2010, 10:01 AM
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My drummer friends always recommended that you do it by hitting things first. The neanderthals.
Write it down; the lowest common denominator is 12 so if you divide that 12 into 3 and 4, you can figure out your rhythm. Count the 12 and tap the Right Hand on 1, 4, 7 and 10 and the Left hand on 1, 5 and 9 and that should give you your 4 against 3!! Put it together, then swap hands, increase the tempo, try it on the piano with notes, with chords, then try your Chopin! |
| Mini_mo |
Oct 6 2010, 11:03 AM
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My drummer friends always recommended that you do it by hitting things first. The neanderthals. Write it down; the lowest common denominator is 12 so if you divide that 12 into 3 and 4, you can figure out your rhythm. Count the 12 and tap the Right Hand on 1, 4, 7 and 10 and the Left hand on 1, 5 and 9 and that should give you your 4 against 3!! Put it together, then swap hands, increase the tempo, try it on the piano with notes, with chords, then try your Chopin! Fantastic! And for the less numerically inclined the spoken version. for 4v3: Not.....ve.......di......cult (RH) Not........ry........fi........ (LH) The thread below has loads of tips (which is where I pinched this from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) Rhythm thread |
Martin.Walters Terrible Brain Frustration Op9 No2 Oct 5 2010, 10:42 PM
Mad Tom Isolate it. Learn to play 4 v 3 rhythms in every ... Oct 5 2010, 11:17 PM

jod
My drummer friends always recommended that you d... Oct 6 2010, 11:11 AM

wurlitzer
My drummer friends always recommended that you d... Oct 11 2010, 03:43 PM
kingsley13
My drummer friends always recommended that you do... Oct 12 2010, 06:20 PM
Mad Tom Yes ... those word patterns are also helpful. The... Oct 11 2010, 05:30 PM
Martin.Walters Thanks for the advice, I think I have it just abou... Oct 24 2010, 08:17 PM
Mad Tom
Thanks for the advice, I think I have it just abo... Oct 24 2010, 11:18 PM![]() ![]() |
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