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> Poll - shoulder rest or no shoulder rest?
ffliwt
post Feb 20 2011, 07:41 PM
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When i used to play with a shoulder rest, i never really noticed anyone playing without one, therefore never tried to.
Last month i had a consultation lesson with my teacher for music college in september, and to my surprise he told me i don't need a s/r. I'd never considered playing without one. I did play with a folded up cloth but now i use nothing at all, and i can't imagine going back to one... even though at first it was like learning to play all over again.
All of my friends at orchestra etc. don't understand how i can play without one and claim they physically can't do it themselves.

I think there's many people out there relying on s/r's when they dont actually need one - mine was causing me so many technique problems which are now well en route to being fixed now the rest is gone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But when i used a rest, i genuinelly thought i wasnt physically able to play without it.

I was just wondering how many people on here use one, and if they've tried to learn to play without one.

(No this isn't an anti-shoulder rest post! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) )


Oh dear - i don't think my poll worked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Flossie
post Feb 21 2011, 12:05 AM
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I know that I 'should' be able to play without a shoulder rest, but I don't seem to be able to. I'm fine with a shoulder rest, but get neck pain and shoulder pain without the shoulder rest and then end up with a sore arm/wrist. I keep trying every couple of weeks because I know that people are supposed to play without one, but I really don't seem to be able to. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) My teacher doesn't have a problem with me using a shoulder rest, thinks my set up is fine and has told me not to worry about it - but I know that it's something everyone is meant to be able to do... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Flossie @ Feb 21 2011, 12:05 AM) *
... I know that people are supposed to play without one
Perhaps some well-meaning person has misled you. Everyone's physical structure is different. Shoulder rests suit some people but not others. Chin rest setup is possibly even more important, and yet is often overlooked completely. I agree with Jojo - don't try to play without a shoulder rest if you're happy and comfortable with one, as you might end up giving yourself problems.

As for me, I use a shoulder rest, have always done so, and I like it. Besides, if I didn't have a shoulder rest in my case I'd have to find some other means of keeping my pencils from rattling round inside.
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(viola-mad @ Feb 21 2011, 10:07 AM) *
Besides, if I didn't have a shoulder rest in my case I'd have to find some other means of keeping my pencils from rattling round inside.

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QUOTE(jojo @ Feb 21 2011, 10:57 AM) *

QUOTE(viola-mad @ Feb 21 2011, 10:07 AM) *
Besides, if I didn't have a shoulder rest in my case I'd have to find some other means of keeping my pencils from rattling round inside.

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My case is not that roomy. I have to wedge the shoulder rest right up against one side of it which creates a nice snug spot for my pencil. The pocket at the end is only big enough for my rosin, practice mute and a few pegs.
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ffliwt   Poll - shoulder rest or no shoulder rest?   Feb 20 2011, 07:41 PM
AuroraViolin   I've been doing some thinking about this recen...   Feb 20 2011, 08:07 PM
lilly763   I've been doing some thinking about this rece...   Feb 20 2011, 10:36 PM
Devil_Fiddler   I've been doing some thinking about this rece...   Feb 21 2011, 09:16 PM
jojo   As to not using a shoulder rest, should your ac...   Feb 21 2011, 09:41 PM
muzikalbadger   if you want to see how I hold the violin with no...   Feb 21 2011, 09:54 PM
jojo   That was lovely Jojo!! A few wobbles adm...   Feb 21 2011, 09:57 PM
muzikalbadger   That was lovely Jojo!! A few wobbles ad...   Feb 21 2011, 09:59 PM
Organistin   you're very kind :blush: in my defence I...   Feb 21 2011, 11:05 PM
viola-mad   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXlCVLFT0ZwSorry, I...   Feb 23 2011, 12:23 PM
jojo   [quote name='jojo' post='1034827' date='Feb 21 20...   Feb 23 2011, 12:41 PM
ffliwt   Yeah, i agree so much about more freedom. My violi...   Feb 20 2011, 08:31 PM
jessy   Interesting stuff. I'm experimenting at the m...   Feb 20 2011, 10:22 PM
Dawnmc71   I'm going to have a good look at the vid (not ...   Feb 20 2011, 10:53 PM
lottie   Interesting because I'm having shoulder/chin r...   Feb 20 2011, 11:07 PM
jojo   the only thing I want to say and especially to Lot...   Feb 20 2011, 11:39 PM
Flossie   I know that I 'should' be able to play wit...   Feb 21 2011, 12:05 AM
jojo   I know that I 'should' be able to play wi...   Feb 21 2011, 12:18 AM
viola-mad   ... I know that people are supposed to play withou...   Feb 21 2011, 10:07 AM
jojo   Besides, if I didn't have a shoulder rest in ...   Feb 21 2011, 10:57 AM
viola-mad   [quote name='viola-mad' post='1034374' date=...   Feb 21 2011, 11:15 AM
jojo   [quote name='viola-mad' post='1034374' date...   Feb 21 2011, 11:36 AM
tetrachord   [quote name='viola-mad' post='1034394' date=...   Feb 21 2011, 12:02 PM
Misterioso   I thought the pencils were inside the viola... I...   Feb 21 2011, 01:59 PM
jojo   An Alexander Teacher once tried to get me playing...   Feb 21 2011, 02:28 PM
lilly763   Okay, just went through a full 2 hour orchestra re...   Feb 21 2011, 02:00 AM
miffy   I can play without a shoulder rest, and did for a ...   Feb 21 2011, 08:03 AM
miffy   ... I know that people are supposed to play witho...   Feb 21 2011, 10:27 AM
viola-mad   :ph34r: I'm going to run away shortly!...   Feb 21 2011, 12:37 PM
barncottagecat   My daughter plays without a shoulder rest. She is...   Feb 21 2011, 10:55 PM
Celeste   I know that I 'should' be able to play wit...   Feb 21 2011, 11:10 PM
karslima   Whilst I'm very happy for anyone who feels tha...   Feb 23 2011, 07:53 AM
jojo   Whilst I'm very happy for anyone who feels th...   Feb 23 2011, 09:01 AM
miffy   Whilst I'm very happy for anyone who feels th...   Feb 23 2011, 08:09 AM
karslima   Just interested in your last comment, Karslima -...   Feb 23 2011, 10:08 PM
miffy   Jojo, this lady fell off a horse about 20 years ag...   Feb 23 2011, 09:19 AM
jojo   Jojo, this lady fell off a horse about 20 years a...   Feb 23 2011, 09:20 AM
Guitar_tempo   When I started learning viola, I was given a spong...   Feb 23 2011, 10:33 AM
mcm   Now I'm not sure whether or not to try a diff...   Feb 23 2011, 10:54 AM
Guitar_tempo   Now I'm not sure whether or not to try a dif...   Feb 23 2011, 11:23 AM
miffy   Jojo, this lady fell off a horse about 20 years ...   Feb 23 2011, 10:33 AM
viola-mad   Shoulder rest or not, you just look really comfort...   Feb 23 2011, 12:50 PM
jojo   Shoulder rest or not, you just look really comfor...   Feb 23 2011, 01:06 PM

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