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| corenfa |
Apr 5 2011, 09:23 PM
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There are also some concert pianists who pull faces while playing...... A classmate of mine in university did this to such an extent that you felt you ought to leave him alone in the room with the piano. I know a violinist who was taught by her teacher to choreograph the movements for the audience. How do I know this? Saw her in the practice rooms, rock solid still, and later heard that that teacher was known for telling her students to ham it up a bit. |
| DerekH |
Apr 5 2011, 10:06 PM
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I know a violinist who was taught by her teacher to choreograph the movements for the audience. I think, actually, the audience know best in such cases - wobbling about like a slow-motion version of the death-throes of a bluebottle after a dose of fly-spray is rarely conducive to letting the music speak its message. Neither is watching an oboist who is playing charades and either miming a kid with a sparkler, or someone piping icing with a leaking icing bag.... "For the audience" indeed.... Who wants to see a violinist dance when they can watch a dancer dance? Or is it just me who finds that the musical message is lost when someone layers a pretentious and rather second-rate gyration on top of it. I'm reminded of that woman in silhouette, apparently treading grapes, at the start of TV's "Tales of the Unexpected". |
| linda.ff |
Apr 6 2011, 11:05 AM
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"For the audience" indeed.... Who wants to see a violinist dance when they can watch a dancer dance? Fans of Mairead Nesbitt? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3eDG1u-K9M |
| DerekH |
Apr 6 2011, 11:29 AM
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"For the audience" indeed.... Who wants to see a violinist dance when they can watch a dancer dance? Fans of Mairead Nesbitt? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3eDG1u-K9M The act of playing the violin while trying to seduce a low-D whistle player was extant long before that. Like this one Secret Garden which is a "beat-time-to-this" challenge too :-) |
| JamesK |
Apr 6 2011, 01:40 PM
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I know a violinist who was taught by her teacher to choreograph the movements for the audience. "For the audience" indeed.... Who wants to see a violinist dance when they can watch a dancer dance? reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNc278W45ck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) |
| Matt Molloy |
Apr 6 2011, 05:27 PM
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No-one seems to have answered your question "How do you stop it?" It's tension, manifesting itself, of course, as much as concentration. As a guitarist I'm well aware of the old joke "What does it mean when a guitarist dribbles out of both sides of his mouth at the same time?" "The stage is level" I stopped the gurning when I moved from "only teaching" to "performing with my ensemble", and one of the things we sometimes do is make eye contact with each other - it stops anyone getting too serious about it. Suggestions for curing yourself at home... Well, in total privacy, video yourself playing - a digital stills camera is good enough. That will give you the scope of the problem. Then video yourself again, but regard yourself as being on TV - that camera is a TV camera - flash a Richard Clayderman smile at it when the music allows, and the echoes of that smile will be with you for about 30 seconds. Try it and see :-) I don't see any problem with pulling faces.... Especially for guitarists Indeed as guitarists we have a wonderful precedent. One from the Maestro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awHlAHsA_8M Cheers, Matt. |
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