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> Need to come up with a stress free schedule, sorry to bore!
MusicalNitWit
post May 2 2011, 09:38 AM
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So definite practice days when we can do everything are:

Saturday and Sunday

Defintite no practice days:

Monday and Tuesday

All other days ranging from 20-40mins but lets assume 20 mins so what should I focus on in the three 20 min slots.

All two octaves

13 scales - 80% there from memory and speed
2 chromatics
3 dominants
2 diminshed
arepeggios
sight-reading
aural - is once a week enough, so at the weekend?

3 pieces of which one is purfect, two just has one problem area and three - eek!

So I need the most efficient practice and one that will help him to remember his scales, especially the chroms, dims, arps etc.
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post May 3 2011, 09:21 PM
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I'd group scales in related pairs as far as possible to help in learning which share the same key signature.
you make a good point about order Flossie but I tried for some time to follow this advice in the run up to my clarinet exam and it just didn't work for me. I needed a more ordered approach.
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QUOTE(sbhoa @ May 3 2011, 10:21 PM) *

I'd group scales in related pairs as far as possible to help in learning which share the same key signature.
you make a good point about order Flossie but I tried for some time to follow this advice in the run up to my clarinet exam and it just didn't work for me. I needed a more ordered approach.

I agree with sbhoa. I did attempt pairing "parallel" scales at one point (e.g. Bmaj and Bmin) but decided that, for me at any rate, it was necessary to embed the key signatures. Relative scales help in that respect. Now with exam time approaching and scales up to a reasonable speed I am going for a random selection with a view to reducing the thinking time between being asked a scale and actually producing it.
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post May 4 2011, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(pushpull @ May 4 2011, 12:22 PM) *

QUOTE(sbhoa @ May 3 2011, 10:21 PM) *

I'd group scales in related pairs as far as possible to help in learning which share the same key signature.
you make a good point about order Flossie but I tried for some time to follow this advice in the run up to my clarinet exam and it just didn't work for me. I needed a more ordered approach.

I agree with sbhoa. I did attempt pairing "parallel" scales at one point (e.g. Bmaj and Bmin) but decided that, for me at any rate, it was necessary to embed the key signatures. Relative scales help in that respect. Now with exam time approaching and scales up to a reasonable speed I am going for a random selection with a view to reducing the thinking time between being asked a scale and actually producing it.


What would be the maximum thinking time for grade 5? The problem is going to be arpeggios in this area I think.
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MusicalNitWit   Need to come up with a stress free schedule   May 2 2011, 09:38 AM
notmusimum   Have you seen the scales under construction series...   May 2 2011, 10:46 AM
staccato   Sorry, I 'm not up to date with recent discuss...   May 2 2011, 11:25 AM
Dulcet   So definite practice days when we can do everythi...   May 2 2011, 11:54 AM
Flossie   I'd do arpeggios and scales in the same keys ...   May 3 2011, 09:14 PM
kerioboe   I'd do arpeggios and scales in the same keys...   May 3 2011, 09:18 PM
SueHM   Suggestion - CD in the car for aural work?   May 2 2011, 12:52 PM
tonedeafmum   Suggestion - CD in the car for aural work? Geniu...   May 2 2011, 03:15 PM
Dulcet   Paul Harris - Improve your Aural is currently...   May 2 2011, 05:10 PM
MusicalNitWit   Currently in London burying my head in the sand (g...   May 2 2011, 08:11 PM
MusicalNitWit   At the moment he is doing: A Sinfonia - nearly th...   May 3 2011, 08:14 AM
andante   Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than the...   May 3 2011, 08:33 AM
MusicalNitWit   Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than th...   May 3 2011, 08:44 AM
pushpull   Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than th...   May 3 2011, 08:48 AM
all ears   1) School commute? 2) Age? 3) Other after-school...   May 3 2011, 11:08 AM
MusicalNitWit   Just had a thought! If the pieces are in a ce...   May 3 2011, 04:07 PM
sbhoa   Just had a thought! If the pieces are in a c...   May 3 2011, 05:57 PM
Listener   Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than t...   May 3 2011, 05:19 PM
madbassoonist   [quote name='pushpull' post='1055366' date='May 3...   May 3 2011, 05:56 PM
tonedeafmum   Sorry to hijack MusicalNitWit's stress free th...   May 3 2011, 06:19 PM
kerioboe   Dreadful Daughter has now announced that she will...   May 3 2011, 09:04 PM
andante   :lol: :lol: I'm sure ferrets come with proble...   May 3 2011, 08:11 PM
sbhoa   I'd group scales in related pairs as far as po...   May 3 2011, 09:21 PM
MusicalNitWit   I'd group scales in related pairs as far as p...   May 3 2011, 10:26 PM
tonedeafmum   Tonedaftmum, was that should of had ferrets inste...   May 4 2011, 07:44 PM
pushpull   I'd group scales in related pairs as far as p...   May 4 2011, 11:22 AM
MusicalNitWit   I'd group scales in related pairs as far as ...   May 4 2011, 11:29 AM
pushpull   What would be the maximum thinking time for grade...   May 4 2011, 01:50 PM
anacrusis   I'd stick to the gin, and let son deal with th...   May 3 2011, 10:46 PM
SueHM   29 scales/arpeggios to do over 3 practice sessions...   May 3 2011, 10:49 PM
Dulcet   29 scales/arpeggios to do over 3 practice session...   May 4 2011, 09:23 AM
MusicalNitWit   Anacrusis! :o Thankfully ;) two out of th...   May 3 2011, 10:56 PM
anacrusis   Anacrusis! :o ...well, I was just saying.....   May 4 2011, 06:31 PM
kerioboe   Anacrusis! :o ...well, I was just saying....   May 4 2011, 06:33 PM
Dulcet   Anacrusis! :o ...well, I was just saying....   May 4 2011, 08:54 PM
MusicalNitWit   DS has been picked to play cricket so that's W...   May 4 2011, 10:06 AM
MusicalNitWit   First practice went well today. Luckily he'd p...   May 4 2011, 05:52 PM
Clari Nicki1   First practice went well today. Luckily he'd ...   May 4 2011, 09:02 PM
MusicalNitWit   First practice went well today. Luckily he'd...   May 4 2011, 09:07 PM
kerioboe   I think instead of a musical soiree to soothe our...   May 4 2011, 09:18 PM
muzikalbadger   I think instead of a musical soiree to soothe ou...   May 4 2011, 09:23 PM
kerioboe   [quote name='kerioboe' post='1055769' date='May 4...   May 4 2011, 09:26 PM
muzikalbadger   [quote name='kerioboe' post='1055769' date='May ...   May 4 2011, 09:28 PM
Clari Nicki1   [quote name='Clari Nicki1' post='1055766' date='M...   May 5 2011, 06:57 AM
Dulcet   [quote name='Clari Nicki1' post='1055766' date='...   May 5 2011, 04:17 PM
MusicalNitWit   If a student has two pieces near perfect, is once ...   May 10 2011, 08:49 AM
sbhoa   If a student has two pieces near perfect, is once...   May 10 2011, 11:00 AM
notmusimum   If a student has two pieces near perfect, is onc...   May 10 2011, 04:43 PM
madbassoonist   ... but I do remind DS1 that I'm not the mean...   May 10 2011, 04:41 PM
Dulcet   ... but I do remind DS1 that I'm not the mea...   May 10 2011, 07:11 PM
MusicalNitWit   He isn't practicing once a week but there are ...   May 10 2011, 06:15 PM
sbhoa   He isn't practicing once a week but there are...   May 10 2011, 06:39 PM
pushpull   He isn't practicing once a week but there ar...   May 11 2011, 09:03 AM
sbhoa   [quote name='sbhoa' post='1057269' date='May 10 2...   May 11 2011, 10:46 AM
kerioboe   [quote name='sbhoa' post='1057269' date='May 10 ...   May 11 2011, 11:23 AM
pushpull   [quote name='sbhoa' post='1057449' date='May 11 2...   May 11 2011, 11:45 AM
tonedeafmum   (well strong enough to get into RCM) MNW moving ...   May 10 2011, 06:42 PM
Chris H   If he's practising other things, I wouldn...   May 10 2011, 06:39 PM
MusicalNitWit   grrrrrrr   May 10 2011, 07:06 PM
notmusimum   grrrrrrr Sorry but I agree.... He doesn...   May 11 2011, 12:27 PM
Clari Nicki1   :blink: Started the scales before school schedule...   May 11 2011, 06:59 AM
Dulcet   :blink: Started the scales before school schedul...   May 11 2011, 01:44 PM
ViolaMum   :blink: Started the scales before school schedu...   May 22 2011, 09:27 AM
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tonedeafmum   Right the pieces are done and two are very good...   May 19 2011, 08:31 PM
SueHM   2 good pieces = 25 + 25, not so good piece maybe 2...   May 19 2011, 09:20 PM
MusicalNitWit   Feeling some low level tension beginning to creep ...   May 22 2011, 09:01 AM
ViolaMum   I would love to find an exam that just examines ...   May 22 2011, 09:24 AM
Chris H   I would love to find an exam that just examines...   May 22 2011, 01:26 PM
notmusimum   [quote name='ViolaMum' post='1060198' date='May 2...   May 22 2011, 04:33 PM
lilly763   [quote name='ViolaMum' post='1060198' date='May ...   May 22 2011, 05:49 PM
sbhoa   [quote name='notmusimum' post='1060318' date='May...   May 22 2011, 05:53 PM
notmusimum   :agree: Not to invade the parent's forum, ...   May 22 2011, 06:40 PM
notmusimum   Feeling some low level tension beginning to creep...   May 22 2011, 09:25 AM
Chris H   Yes, you are right, Notmusimum. He doesn't rea...   May 22 2011, 05:09 PM
Chris H   You're approaching it from a pianist's per...   May 22 2011, 06:37 PM
Chris H   Also, we pianists don't have to learn how to d...   May 22 2011, 06:55 PM
notmusimum   Also, we pianists don't have to learn how to ...   May 22 2011, 07:02 PM
tonedeafmum   Also, we pianists don't have to learn how to...   May 22 2011, 08:23 PM
kerioboe   I would not want an exam with no supporting tests...   May 22 2011, 08:38 PM
tonedeafmum   I would not want an exam with no supporting test...   May 22 2011, 08:48 PM
Cyrilla   Daughter can definitely develop an embouchure whi...   May 23 2011, 09:19 AM
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Village Flute   If you play in ensembles and bands sightreading is...   May 22 2011, 09:11 PM
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lilly763   You're approaching it from a pianist's pe...   May 23 2011, 11:28 AM
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andante   I predict 118 then! :P Perhaps we should ha...   May 23 2011, 12:01 PM
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MusicalNitWit   You lot have got your heads in the cloud. Looks li...   May 23 2011, 12:55 PM
ViolaMum   You lot have got your heads in the cloud. Looks l...   May 23 2011, 01:10 PM
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