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> Bottom of a talented bunch at music college., Can you rise to the top?
MNW
post Oct 11 2011, 05:43 PM
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I was wondering, if when a student enters music college do they always remain in the same position (all things being equal) compared to their peers? What I mean is: there are lots of musicians entering music college having just passed grade 8 and then there are some who have FRSM and others with considerable performing experience. Do the latter always stay ahead of the former and how would this manifest itself? Does it mean they are better players or get more performance opportunities? I am intrigued because with standard university courses most students are on a level playing field with 3A's at A'level, for example, but music college is different. And if the more advanced student always stays ahead, is this not frustrating for the student of lesser ability and do they feel disadvantaged?

I am not trying to start a heated debate but I am intrigued because if I entered a course knowing I was considerably weaker than most of my class then I'm not sure I would be strong enough to put myself in such an environment. Of course I could be the weakest on a standard academic course but I wouldn't necessarily know this until a couple of years in. I assume with music, especially performance, it becomes quite obvious fairly quickly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 17 2011, 09:11 AM
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That's rather arrogant to assume a large number of parents are "daft" to opt for specialism for their children. I would like to think that I wouldnt judge anyone for the choices they make even if it seems bizarre or conflicts with my ideals. Dig deep and one tends to find that it is the child that is pushing for specialism and the parent has tried to dissuade them or ignore their child's passions or talents for a long time. As long as the child is informed and continually made aware of the pro's and cons and is allowed to opt out at any point then I do not see the harm. Luckily the music schools in the UK offer a traditional academic education minus subjects such as media studies or psychology which seem to get one nowhere with uni applications. Sport is an issue but some children hate sport and some parents have to work around these issues.

Anyway this is way off topic and not relevant to the original post!
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MNW   Bottom of a talented bunch at music college.   Oct 11 2011, 05:43 PM
serendipity   I'm not sure about your assumption about stand...   Oct 11 2011, 06:03 PM
MNW   That's sounding very positive for you daughter...   Oct 11 2011, 06:09 PM
sbhoa   That's sounding very positive for you daughte...   Oct 11 2011, 06:19 PM
sam_1   read "Outliers" (Gladwell, I think) - it...   Oct 11 2011, 06:21 PM
flobiano   I was wondering, if when a student enters music c...   Oct 11 2011, 09:16 PM
RoseRodent   I would hope that no college or university (or ...   Oct 12 2011, 08:21 AM
Listener   I would hope that no college or university (or ...   Oct 12 2011, 09:12 AM
MNW   [quote name='RoseRodent' post='1096518' date='Oct...   Oct 12 2011, 09:34 AM
notmusimum   Also, Flobiano, MNW wasn't asking about a stu...   Oct 17 2011, 07:42 AM
Misti   I don't think many cohorts of university stude...   Oct 11 2011, 10:18 PM
MNW   That's rather arrogant to assume a large numbe...   Oct 17 2011, 09:11 AM
notmusimum   That's rather arrogant to assume a large numb...   Oct 17 2011, 01:32 PM
Listener   That's rather arrogant to assume a large num...   Oct 17 2011, 05:32 PM
allegro2011   Going back to the original question and speaking f...   Oct 17 2011, 12:06 PM
MNW   Going back to the original question and speaking ...   Oct 17 2011, 12:15 PM
KixMusic   Going back to the original question and speaking...   Oct 17 2011, 01:40 PM
MNW   Where does it say brave? I only read daft unless i...   Oct 17 2011, 01:38 PM
Czerny   Where does it say brave? I only read daft unless ...   Oct 17 2011, 02:22 PM
Chris H   Where does it say brave? I only read daft unless ...   Oct 17 2011, 04:02 PM
notmusimum   Where does it say brave? I only read daft unless ...   Oct 17 2011, 05:56 PM
BadStrad   I was wondering, if when a student enters music c...   Oct 17 2011, 02:51 PM
MNW   Sorry then, its just been so hard recently because...   Oct 17 2011, 04:16 PM
MNW   Now i am totally embarrassed! :blush: I...   Oct 17 2011, 06:07 PM
notmusimum   Now i am totally embarrassed! :blush: I...   Oct 17 2011, 06:54 PM
pushpull   If there were no politics in these institutions l...   Oct 18 2011, 08:37 AM
notmusimum   [quote name='notmusimum' post='1097889' date='Oct...   Oct 18 2011, 03:28 PM
Chris H   I wonder how much string pulling goes on behind th...   Oct 18 2011, 08:51 AM
Chris H   Are you saying we should get him drunk? :lol: Now...   Oct 18 2011, 05:41 PM
notmusimum   Are you saying we should get him drunk? :lol: No...   Oct 18 2011, 06:32 PM
MNW   Are you saying we should get him drunk? :lol: N...   Oct 18 2011, 06:47 PM
Chris H   [quote name='notmusimum' post='1098094' date='Oct...   Oct 18 2011, 08:26 PM
MNW   [quote name='notmusimum' post='1098094' date='Oc...   Oct 18 2011, 08:31 PM
notmusimum   [quote name='Chris H' post='1098131' date='Oct 18...   Oct 18 2011, 08:58 PM
Chris H   Oh, well I would prefer the sidekick :lol: Yes, t...   Oct 18 2011, 09:20 PM
notmusimum   Oh, well I would prefer the sidekick :lol: Yes, ...   Oct 19 2011, 07:20 AM

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