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| RoseRodent |
Nov 22 2011, 05:20 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1530 Joined: 29-September 09 From: Scotland Member No.: 76503 |
At what point do you make the official pronouncement that you can play a particular instrument? It seems people have mnay different ideas on this one. Many a person has told me they can play the piano and proceed to pick out a one-finger rendition of something almost recognisable. I am confident about sitting grade 3 in piano really have picked the wrong grade because I'm ready now for my March exam (whoops!) yet would not begin to think of myself as playing the piano, perhaps because it compares so unfavourably to my other instruments, and maybe I should compare to the general population and realise that most people are below that standard so perhaps I can "play the piano" after all. Recorder is most prone to claims of being able to play it so long as it can be inserted in the face and sound comes out, methinks. When do you think it's proper to say you can play an instrument?
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| KTViola |
Nov 22 2011, 05:31 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 2-October 06 Member No.: 7854 |
Depends why they're asking!
I can play the viola - it's how I make my living. I can play the violin - I teach it to grade 8 and am happy(ish) playing 2nd violin in an orchestra I used to be able to play the oboe (was joint first study until halfway through degree, then realised that I'd get more work as a violist and it fell out of favour). Can't play it now, although understand how it works and probably know the fingerings still. Piano. Hmmm - I would say "I can play it a bit, but not very well". I got as far as I had to with it for music degree entry (grade 6), then parts of my piano technique developed (busking, basic accompanying, basic score reading & keyboard harmony, hacking through aural tests for pupils) and other bits totally went. If someone was wanting a pianist to sight read the hymn for school assembly - my answer would be 'no - I'm not a pianist'. |
| RoseRodent |
Nov 22 2011, 06:06 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1530 Joined: 29-September 09 From: Scotland Member No.: 76503 |
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| corenfa |
Nov 22 2011, 06:50 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4222 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861 |
I used to think "when I can play Chopin Op. 53 (the "Military" Polonaise), then I'll be able to play the piano", which is ridiculous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I can never answer that sort of question accurately- same as people ask me, "Can you speak Chinese" and I don't know what to say, because I know a few words so I can't totally say "No" but I certainly can't hold a conversation. I'd answer the question "can you play the piano" with "I can play happy birthday and a few Christmas carols from memory but otherwise I need music". |
| lilly763 |
Nov 22 2011, 06:53 PM
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Hmm, I guess among most of the people I interact with I can say, "I play viola in the orchestra" and they can make of that what they will! (so non-musicians would consider this an accomplishment, serious violinists/pianists would snicker (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) I don't mention piano nearly as often, but if it does come up I say that I can play a bit and pray I'm not asked for a demonstration (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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| maggiemay |
Nov 22 2011, 07:11 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18110 Joined: 12-January 04 From: S E England Member No.: 413 |
I believe there is a previous thread on this topic in the general forum. You might like to do a search and see what people thought last time the question was raised.
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| RoseRodent |
Nov 22 2011, 07:34 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1530 Joined: 29-September 09 From: Scotland Member No.: 76503 |
I believe there is a previous thread on this topic in the general forum. You might like to do a search and see what people thought last time the question was raised. TBH I find it hard enough to make the search function tell me about threads I know are definitely there, are recent and I know exactly what words I posted! |
| maggiemay |
Nov 22 2011, 08:05 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18110 Joined: 12-January 04 From: S E England Member No.: 413 |
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| Cyrilla |
Nov 22 2011, 10:31 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11911 Joined: 9-November 03 From: Croydon, South London/Surrey Member No.: 99 |
If someone asks me what instruments I play, I reply, 'piano badly (graduate of Les Dawson School) and all the recorders enthusiastically'...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (OT but I still don't know what to do about the following conversation, which I have fairly regularly: Person: What do you do? Me: I teach music. Person: Ah! What instrument do you teach? Me: I don't teach an instrument. Person: (puzzled look appearing) But I thought you said you taught music? Me: (starting to flounder) Yes, I do. Person: So what instrument do you teach? Me: I don't teach an instrument. Person: But I thought... Conversation continues ad infinitum) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
| Pixie*Porsche |
Nov 22 2011, 10:46 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2687 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 6685 |
I play the clarinet and piano (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| Maizie |
Nov 23 2011, 07:27 AM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4862 Joined: 5-February 07 From: Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire Member No.: 9360 |
It's one of those answers that changes all the time, isn't it? If you'd asked me at age 11, I would have confidently told you I played the cello - four open strings is playing, isn't it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I have a photo of my recorders as my background on my work computer, and I get asked from time to time if I play. I do tend to say yes, but in my head it's more "yes, a bit" - doubtless as a teenager I would have told you yes in full happiness that this was the correct answer. It's not to do with age, I don't think, but to do with advancement on the instrument - as you advance, you become aware of how much more there is to learn, and realise that Grade 8 doesn't mean you can play everything ever and you're all done now. And of course, if you have reached that point on one instrument, then starting a new one you will feel much less of a 'player' at Grade 1 as you did the first time round. |
| schraeubchen |
Nov 23 2011, 07:37 AM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1355 Joined: 6-January 10 From: Germany Member No.: 86433 |
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I wouldn't even state 'I can play the flute!' for the same reasons Maizie mentioned. One day a professional flute player said to me: 'It never ends! The same things will raise as to work on from time to time, but each time on a different level!' |
| barry-clari |
Nov 23 2011, 08:45 AM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 40592 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804 |
I can play clarinet, saxophone, flute, Irish tin whistle, 'cello, piano, recorders and I can sing. I can play all of them. Some better than others, but I can play all of them. I think we do ourselves down if we say otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| schraeubchen |
Nov 23 2011, 09:09 AM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1355 Joined: 6-January 10 From: Germany Member No.: 86433 |
I think we do ourselves down if we say otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Maybe your right. |
| Pixie*Porsche |
Nov 23 2011, 09:42 AM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2687 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 6685 |
So I should add flute and saxophone! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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