Ilka Moor Baht'At Options

[Vox Humana]

... the apparently careful transcription on CPDL ...

Where is that, Stephen? I had a look under "Thomas Clark" and there were two versions there, but you can't be referring to either of those.

[Vox Humana]

Ah! I guess this is it: http://www.choralwiki.org/wiki/images/7/72/Cranbrook.pdf

[jch48]

I played this last night and the singers regularised it to 4 bar phrases - in my head the first 2 phrases are 3-bars long (2 2 time minim on 1st note - 1. Wheear 'ast tha bin sin' ah saw thee? 2. On Ilkla Mooar baht 'at), but I don't profess to know it very well. Tunes of this sort often exist in different versions anyway and who says music has to come in 4-bar phrases.
btw. My great-grandfather who I never met worked on the railway at Ilkley and sang in the church choir

[Stephen Barber]

Ah! I guess this is it: http://www.choralwiki.org/wiki/images/7/72/Cranbrook.pdf

That's the one (definitely not the ones under While shepherds watched!).

Assuming that these are the notes that Clark originally wrote, where does the Shorter Oxford Book get its version with the tune in the tenor from, I wonder. I'm sure it may well have been sung like that by Gallery musicians and others, but it seems odd to offer that as the only version, without telling us that it's not what Clark actually wrote.

[vectistim]

Interestingly, I've just received a draft copy of the order of service which claims the piece was composed by the Halifax Church Choir.

[Stephen Barber]

Interestingly, I've just received a draft copy of the order of service which claims the piece was composed by the Halifax Church Choir.

"According to tradition, the members of a Halifax Wesleyan [Methodist] Church were picnicking beneath the Cow and Calf rocks, after their annual walk across the moors when two of their party disappeared into the bracken. On their return to the main group, a member of the choir bellowed out ?Wheer wor ta bahn when ah saw thee?? ?Tha?s bin a-courtin? Mary Jane?, commented another. Further lines in common metre were contributed until the choir burst naturally into the tune Cranbrook."


Some nice carols here: http://www.msgr.ca/msgr-2/wenshoster%20Carol%20Sheet.htm

[vectistim]

Interestingly, I've just received a draft copy of the order of service which claims the piece was composed by the Halifax Church Choir.

"According to tradition, the members of a Halifax Wesleyan [Methodist] Church were picnicking beneath the Cow and Calf rocks, after their annual walk across the moors when two of their party disappeared into the bracken. On their return to the main group, a member of the choir bellowed out ?Wheer wor ta bahn when ah saw thee?? ?Tha?s bin a-courtin? Mary Jane?, commented another. Further lines in common metre were contributed until the choir burst naturally into the tune Cranbrook."


Some nice carols here: http://www.msgr.ca/msgr-2/wenshoster%20Carol%20Sheet.htm

Cunning, so that set of words were allegedly produced by the Halifax choir, the order of service doesn't have the words, so I suppose it ought really to say the recessional is Cranbrook instead, I'm sure that would cause confusion.