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> The Player or the Instrument?, A better violin is better for the player?
ViolinQueen
post Dec 28 2011, 07:59 PM
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I'm just interested to know what everyone thinks about this whole topic of 'a better violin can be better for a player'. My Violin is a simple Antoni Debut, purchased from DJMusic - Having little experience of violins, I decided to purchase it because from the reviews, I thought that it was probably okay for its price (?50 + postage) - that was when I decided to give it a try... But I wish I hadn't rushed into a decision now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Its a bit cheap sounding and although it looks good, I'm not sure about the sound - especially after I saw a demonstration of it on youtube. My music teacher, (NOT specialised in violin area) says that with some decent (maybe dominates?) strings I could MAYBE go to grade 3/4 at a stretch - but I was kinda hoping that it'd take me to around grade 4/5 before I upgraded to a better violin so that I could really know where my violin preference lies. Also, with a new clarinet (and mouthpiece!) to purchase quite recently, I really can't buy two instrument at the same time! (It'll feel really cheeky to ask parents for them! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) )

However, on violinist.com (I think) it said that the tone from the violin comes from this points, in order of importance:
Player (Of course! Even a 'Orange box' will sound good in the hands of GIDOM KREMER!)
Set-up
Bow
(Last 10%, violin)

So what does everyone think? Surely a good violin aids the player, but is it crucial for a good player to have a good instrument to reach grade 8? I think not, but what is your opinion?
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The player is vastly more important than the violin. The time when you need to change violins is when the violin you have is causing you constant difficulties. As a retailer I spend far more time talking adult learners down in price than up!

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post Dec 31 2011, 10:53 AM
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The player is vastly more important than the violin. The time when you need to change violins is when the violin you have is causing you constant difficulties. As a retailer I spend far more time talking adult learners down in price than up!

Liz

It's already causing me difficulties, but I suspect that its down to my technique (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

PS: The difficulty for me is that (in first position) when I am switching from D on the A string (third finger) to G on the D string - especially if they're in a slur (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
PPS: Vibrato is not compulsory till grade 5... right? Coz I've not been practicing it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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ViolinQueen   The Player or the Instrument?   Dec 28 2011, 07:59 PM
willobie   I'm just interested to know what everyone thi...   Dec 28 2011, 08:07 PM
DiscoPants   I However, on violinist.com (I think) it said th...   Dec 28 2011, 08:21 PM
ViolinQueen   In my opinion: Player violin bow. I don't re...   Dec 29 2011, 03:35 PM
miffy   A set of dominants will certainly help an Antoni, ...   Dec 29 2011, 04:19 PM
miffy   A few years ago I took on a girl and we worked har...   Dec 29 2011, 04:38 PM
Claudia's Mum   A few years ago I took on a girl and we worked ha...   Dec 29 2011, 04:46 PM
ViolinQueen   A set of dominants will certainly help an Antoni,...   Dec 29 2011, 05:08 PM
miffy   Ok - this girl/violin is an extreme case, remember...   Dec 29 2011, 05:48 PM
ViolinQueen   Ok - this girl/violin is an extreme case, remembe...   Dec 29 2011, 06:17 PM
miffy   Ok - this girl/violin is an extreme case, rememb...   Dec 29 2011, 06:21 PM
BadStrad   I was talking to my teacher about this recently. ...   Dec 30 2011, 02:51 AM
ViolinQueen   [quote name='ViolinQueen' post='1117672' date='De...   Dec 30 2011, 10:17 AM
ViolinQueen   Apparently, on the internet it says that dominant ...   Dec 30 2011, 06:02 PM
BadStrad   I prefer Pirastro Aricores - I find them much mell...   Dec 30 2011, 06:18 PM
elidatrading   The player is vastly more important than the violi...   Dec 30 2011, 09:17 PM
ViolinQueen   The player is vastly more important than the viol...   Dec 31 2011, 10:53 AM
BadStrad   PS: The difficulty for me is that (in first positi...   Dec 31 2011, 02:25 PM
ViolinQueen   Out of interest - how long have you been playing ...   Dec 31 2011, 04:16 PM
elidatrading   It's already causing me difficulties, but I ...   Dec 31 2011, 02:57 PM
AntonPiano   Sorry to intrude, but this thread relates to somet...   Jan 19 2012, 02:26 AM
ViolinClarinetQueen   Sorry to intrude, but this thread relates to some...   Jan 25 2012, 08:09 PM
miffy   Antonpiano - unplayable in what sense? Does it may...   Jan 19 2012, 07:00 AM
BadStrad   Does it maybe just need a good set of strings or a...   Jan 19 2012, 11:21 AM
AntonPiano   I'm sure your future primary school students ...   Jan 19 2012, 02:18 PM
miffy   Does it maybe just need a good set of strings or ...   Jan 19 2012, 01:24 PM
Sunrise   In that case I think a new one might be in order. ...   Jan 19 2012, 02:23 PM
AntonPiano   In that case I think a new one might be in order....   Jan 23 2012, 11:26 PM
miffy   Yup! Sounds like a new one is the only way...   Jan 19 2012, 02:40 PM
elidatrading   A pupil of mine recently was assured by the selle...   Jan 20 2012, 09:24 AM
miffy   A pupil of mine recently was assured by the sell...   Jan 20 2012, 11:09 AM
michael N   Not only that but under EU distance selling rules ...   Jan 20 2012, 03:18 PM
Claudia's Mum   Not only that but under EU distance selling rules...   Jan 24 2012, 07:16 AM

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