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> A Question on Grouping Notes
harrylau
post Jan 30 2012, 04:16 AM
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As in the AB guide said, "the standard practice is to avoid ties where possible". Now I have a simple song (for vocalist) which contains a lot of off-beats, as shown below:

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A is following the AB guide rule while B is easier to count the beats.

Which one is correct (or better), A or B? If B, do I need to beam the quavers in the third beat in bars 1,5 and 6?

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post Jan 30 2012, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(harrylau @ Jan 30 2012, 04:16 AM) *

As in the AB guide said, "the standard practice is to avoid ties where possible". Now I have a simple song (for vocalist) which contains a lot of off-beats, as shown below:


A is following the AB guide rule while B is easier to count the beats.

Which one is correct (or better), A or B? If B, do I need to beam the quavers in the third beat in bars 1,5 and 6?

Thank you for your help! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Hmmm I think B is more 'correct' as it observes the showing the 1/2 bar rule of grouping. If I was being asked to play it I'd much prefer to see A as at least to me it is clearer. Regarding the beaming, I suspect the 'correct' answer is yes, but again to my eye it is more readable unbeamed.

I regularly find myself sightreading in concerts or playing with minimal rehearsals - if a composer/arranger can make the parts easy to read I always appreciate it.
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post Jan 30 2012, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(CJB @ Jan 30 2012, 08:35 AM) *
Hmmm I think B is more 'correct' as it observes the showing the 1/2 bar rule of grouping. If I was being asked to play it I'd much prefer to see A as at least to me it is clearer. Regarding the beaming, I suspect the 'correct' answer is yes, but again to my eye it is more readable unbeamed.

I regularly find myself sightreading in concerts or playing with minimal rehearsals - if a composer/arranger can make the parts easy to read I always appreciate it.

B is indeed more correct for exactly that reason (you need to be able to see where the half-bar is), and is the reason I'd much rather be sight-reading from B (preferably with the 3rd beat quavers beamed). (For instance, at speed I simply can't sense a minim displaced by a quaver as in bar 1 - but being able to see the tied-over-ness onto the start of the second half of the bar tells me clearly where it finishes.) I too frequently find myself sight-reading 'on the gig' (as I was doing on Saturday night for an hour's-worth of big band) and when I analyse any reading errors on my part, my being unable to see the middle of the bar is one of the most frequent causes of misplayed rhythms.
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harrylau   A Question on Grouping Notes   Jan 30 2012, 04:16 AM
CJB   As in the AB guide said, "the standard pract...   Jan 30 2012, 08:35 AM
briantrumpet   Hmmm I think B is more 'correct' as it obs...   Jan 30 2012, 09:40 AM
Czerny   B is indeed more correct for exactly that reason ...   Jan 30 2012, 08:50 PM
briantrumpet   Totally agree. Come on! - this is the internet...   Jan 30 2012, 10:20 PM
Czerny   Totally agree. Come on! - this is the interne...   Feb 1 2012, 02:49 PM
briantrumpet   I find sight-reading syncopated rhythms much less ...   Feb 2 2012, 12:00 AM
Alicia Ocean   I have a couple of pieces of music where a bar is ...   Jan 30 2012, 09:48 AM
Neumer   As you say, B is more correct. When I studied co...   Jan 30 2012, 08:41 PM
harrylau   This just seems to be a simple question, but your ...   Feb 1 2012, 02:36 AM
HelenVJ   Personally, I would find A a lot easier to read, e...   Feb 1 2012, 01:23 PM

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