Dyslexia and difficulties reading music - particularly sightreading, do they go together? Options

[ExpressYourself]

I think what all of these recent posts demonstrate from first hand experience is that although the vast majority of pupils will be in the so called 'normal spectrum', when you are actually outside it can be quite distressing, and being written off is not pleasant.

But I can't see where anyone has suggested they be written off - in fact, the OP was suggesting something quite different. Even in the other thread about the 'dead wood' (which was sadly closed) they weren't being written off.

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Happily, I've never seen anyone on this forum, nor in my teaching career, suggest a student is "unteachable" and I hope that no-one has interpreted any of MY requests for help and support as implying such.

[Cyrilla]

I think what all of these recent posts demonstrate from first hand experience is that although the vast majority of pupils will be in the so called 'normal spectrum', when you are actually outside it can be quite distressing, and being written off is not pleasant.

But I can't see where anyone has suggested they be written off - in fact, the OP was suggesting something quite different. Even in the other thread about the 'dead wood' (which was sadly closed) they weren't being written off.

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Happily, I've never seen anyone on this forum, nor in my teaching career, suggest a student is "unteachable" and I hope that no-one has interpreted any of MY requests for help and support as implying such.

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No, I don't remember anyone suggesting on this forum that they have a student who is 'unteachable'. I have, however, read of children being described as 'thick or lazy' if they DON'T have a diagnosed SEN.

FWIW, a while ago I taught a boy who was very immature for his age but very musical - he was quite quiet in lessons but when asked to do something he could do it well. He was then diagnosed with dyslexia - and became completely WILD. I have never seen such a sudden change in a child - it was really quite distressing. It was almost like he now had permission to behave however he liked and that there would be no consequences.

Could say more but I have to go and plan my class for this afternoon!

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[jod]

I have bright kids who are lazy (my own).

Even within the normal spectrum there are bright kids and there are thick kids.

I also will admit to having daft moments, and doing dimwitted things.

Now maybe, just maybe my 'this is a spade' approach does not wash well with everyone who posts on this forum. However it does have an integrity about it.

I do feel at times that there is a crowd of cronies that are having a separate conversation via PM where my posts are being scrutinised and then a mass complaint session starts. Of course I could be wrong about this, and it is just paranoia. However my sixth sense does not normally have a habit of being wrong.

[maggiemay]

So you're saying that when a few people disagree with your point of view it's not going to be coincidence???

[Seer_Green]

I do feel at times that there is a crowd of cronies that are having a separate conversation via PM where my posts are being scrutinised and then a mass complaint session starts. Of course I could be wrong about this, and it is just paranoia. However my sixth sense does not normally have a habit of being wrong.

If people are (I have no idea if this is the case), then to be quite frank, I don't blame them. People (a) Don't like to be made out to be saying things they haven't, and (b) Are fed up with this ongoing stance that you are right and the rest of us are wrong - why is it so hard to understand that actually it's a difference of opinion - neither is right nor wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Maria]

I think what all of these recent posts demonstrate from first hand experience is that although the vast majority of pupils will be in the so called 'normal spectrum', when you are actually outside it can be quite distressing, and being written off is not pleasant.

But I can't see where anyone has suggested they be written off - in fact, the OP was suggesting something quite different. Even in the other thread about the 'dead wood' (which was sadly closed) they weren't being written off.

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Happily, I've never seen anyone on this forum, nor in my teaching career, suggest a student is "unteachable" and I hope that no-one has interpreted any of MY requests for help and support as implying such.

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No, I don't remember anyone suggesting on this forum that they have a student who is 'unteachable'. I have, however, read of children being described as 'thick or lazy' if they DON'T have a diagnosed SEN.

FWIW, a while ago I taught a boy who was very immature for his age but very musical - he was quite quiet in lessons but when asked to do something he could do it well. He was then diagnosed with dyslexia - and became completely WILD. I have never seen such a sudden change in a child - it was really quite distressing. It was almost like he now had permission to behave however he liked and that there would be no consequences.

Could say more but I have to go and plan my class for this afternoon!

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[anacrusis]

*gets a peculiar sensation that an awful lot of folks by now must've blocked her posts*

[Seer_Green]

*gets a peculiar sensation that an awful lot of folks by now must've blocked her posts*

I haven't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wave.gif)

[katyjay]

*gets a peculiar sensation that an awful lot of folks by now must've blocked her posts*

Not me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Aquarelle]

I do feel at times that there is a crowd of cronies that are having a separate conversation via PM where my posts are being scrutinised and then a mass complaint session starts. Of course I could be wrong about this, and it is just paranoia. However my sixth sense does not normally have a habit of being wrong.

Oh how wearisome this is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Before we know where we are this thread will have been closed.
jod, please, please just cool it a bit. This is an iteresting thread from which I have learnt quite a bit - let's keep it like that. These fora are for all of us as long as we express our opinions politely and respect those who disagree with us. Most of us manage that and when we do the result is lively and informative debate.

[Maria]

I do feel at times that there is a crowd of cronies that are having a separate conversation via PM where my posts are being scrutinised and then a mass complaint session starts. Of course I could be wrong about this, and it is just paranoia. However my sixth sense does not normally have a habit of being wrong.

Oh how wearisome this is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Before we know where we are this thread will have been closed.
jod, please, please just cool it a bit. This is an iteresting thread from which I have learnt quite a bit - let's keep it like that. These fora are for all of us as long as we express our opinions politely and respect those who disagree with us. Most of us manage that and when we do the result is lively and informative debate.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Let's try to keep the open and friendly debate that we've been having on some of these threads, without it turning into an argument. It's been really interesting to see a range of opinions be discussed over the last few days. I really don't want these threads to be closed.

*gets a peculiar sensation that an awful lot of folks by now must've blocked her posts*

Your posts? Not at all! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[LizzieT]

Oh how wearisome this is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Before we know where we are this thread will have been closed.

I agree it's getting wearisome, and it's a pity because it's an interesting topic.

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[morceau]

*gets a peculiar sensation that an awful lot of folks by now must've blocked her posts*

What? Why would anyone do that! I love your posts - they are jaw-droppingly good.

Oh how wearisome this is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Before we know where we are this thread will have been closed.

I agree it's getting wearisome, and it's a pity because it's an interesting topic.

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[barry-clari]

*gets a peculiar sensation that an awful lot of folks by now must've blocked her posts*

Nah...anacrusis' posts are gooood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

...but I do fear that this thread is yet another that will have the red 'x' applied to it soon... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[maggiemay]

No, I haven't blocked anyone.