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ffliwt
post Mar 12 2012, 11:03 PM
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Not sure if many of you will know who I am, but after many years here I am leaving.
I might still hover around and have a nosey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But won't be posting.
You're the nicest bunch of people (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But due to a few, I no longer have any freedom of speech and everything I say can be turned into a personal attack, accusing me of being this that and the other, 'this could destroy your future career' etc.etc. It really saddens me.
So I think my time here is over (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm no-where near thick skinned enough for this, I give up! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/peace2.gif)
Thanks for all the help and advice i've been given over the years - from before I'd ever touched a violin to now being in music college, I really wonder if I'd even be here without the inspriation and help from everyone here! So thanks!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thanks.gif) Good luck with all your music making! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/party1.gif)
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post Mar 13 2012, 04:39 PM
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A less superficial approach to moderation (Universal policy: delete the thread and, if it seems warranted, hand out warnings) would prevent this sort of trouble.

It is like refereeing a football match. When the ref gets it wrong, or punishes both innocent and guilty alike, or when a situation is just left unresolved, then everyone feels aggrieved and the underlying disagreement just festers and runs on into the rest of the game.

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post Mar 13 2012, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(VH2 @ Mar 13 2012, 04:39 PM) *

A less superficial approach to moderation (Universal policy: delete the thread and, if it seems warranted, hand out warnings) would prevent this sort of trouble.

You're asking for more heavy-handed moderation? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

The problem seems to be, at least in some people's eyes, that some people on the forum either have the ear of the moderators, or are too quick to go crying to them when they see anything which *they* see as unacceptable. Surely a principle of firmer moderation will breed more of this sort of thing, not less?

I occasionally read posts from people who often end up irritating me - in other words when I see their name I can almost predict that I will end up feeling irritated. But other posters may feel that they come close to their own way of thinking. There are probably groups of people here who feel one or the other way about me. Or you.

I've been on a forum before where there was one person (let's call him XYZ) who was constantly being banned, and coming back with a different name through a new e-mail address, and deliberately upsetting the people on that forum, mainly just to destablilise the forum itself. Any suggestion, however veiled, from any of us (and I made a couple myself) that this was XYZ would end up with our getting a warning from the moderator ("we can tell you that Mr XYZ no longer posts to this forum"). They were almost apologetic about it when I replied that I would desist, and implied that I still thought so nevertheless, and it seemed to me that they were asking us to desist because Mr XYZ was just making their jobs hard and unpleasant for them. (He was eventually banned one weekend when I was away, and I missed all the "excitement")

But XYZ was often outright offensive. I've not read anything on this forum which is anywhere remotely near what he was doing.
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post Mar 14 2012, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(linda.ff @ Mar 14 2012, 12:03 AM) *

QUOTE(VH2 @ Mar 13 2012, 04:39 PM) *

A less superficial approach to moderation (Universal policy: delete the thread and, if it seems warranted, hand out warnings) would prevent this sort of trouble.

You're asking for more heavy-handed moderation? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

No, not more heavy-handed but more correct, taking the trouble to identify the original cause of any disagreements, and not deleting entire threads (so as to pretend they never happened and keeping the site sanitised). What I stated as "Universal Policy" is what I see as the present policy and not what I thonk the policy should be.
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post Mar 14 2012, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(VH2 @ Mar 14 2012, 09:53 AM) *

QUOTE(linda.ff @ Mar 14 2012, 12:03 AM) *

QUOTE(VH2 @ Mar 13 2012, 04:39 PM) *

A less superficial approach to moderation (Universal policy: delete the thread and, if it seems warranted, hand out warnings) would prevent this sort of trouble.

You're asking for more heavy-handed moderation? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

No, not more heavy-handed but more correct, taking the trouble to identify the original cause of any disagreements, and not deleting entire threads (so as to pretend they never happened and keeping the site sanitised). What I stated as "Universal Policy" is what I see as the present policy and not what I thonk the policy should be.

Ah - sorry, I read it quite the other way around. Thanks for clarifying
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ffliwt   Leaving the forums   Mar 12 2012, 11:03 PM
Lee King   Music is a valuable commodity, and learning to pla...   Mar 13 2012, 06:02 AM
Sunrise   I'm so sorry to hear this, Ffliwt. Have you sa...   Mar 13 2012, 06:35 AM
Clari Nicki1   I am really sorry to hear this ffliwt as you have ...   Mar 13 2012, 07:16 AM
sunil   ffliwt, sorry to hear that you are leaving. I saw ...   Mar 13 2012, 08:01 AM
maggiemay   I am sorry too - I think it would be a loss to the...   Mar 13 2012, 08:34 AM
barry-clari   Occasionally, ffliwt, you'll end up in a confl...   Mar 13 2012, 08:42 AM
Listener   Occasionally, ffliwt, you'll end up in a conf...   Mar 13 2012, 09:51 AM
Claudia's Mum   I read the thread in question before it was edited...   Mar 13 2012, 10:29 AM
Listener   I read the thread in question before it was edite...   Mar 13 2012, 10:38 AM
Claudia's Mum   I read the thread in question before it was edit...   Mar 13 2012, 11:01 AM
Listener   [quote name='Listener' post='1135100' date='Mar 1...   Mar 13 2012, 11:34 AM
Claudia's Mum   [quote name='Listener' post='1135100' date='Mar ...   Mar 13 2012, 12:01 PM
ffliwt   Thanks for your kind posts. I'll be hovering b...   Mar 13 2012, 12:07 PM
Misterioso   Like others, Ffliwt, I hope you will reconsider. ...   Mar 13 2012, 11:02 AM
corenfa   ffliwt - I hope you'll stay, but I understand ...   Mar 13 2012, 11:06 AM
Listener   ffliwt - I hope you'll stay, but I understand...   Mar 13 2012, 12:07 PM
andante   So it's ok for short standing members to leave...   Mar 13 2012, 11:59 AM
Deborah   So it's ok for short standing members to leav...   Mar 13 2012, 12:01 PM
Listener   So it's ok for short standing members to leav...   Mar 13 2012, 12:36 PM
andante   So it's ok for short standing members to lea...   Mar 13 2012, 01:16 PM
mrbouffant   So it's ok for short standing members to leav...   Mar 14 2012, 08:37 AM
Clari Nicki1   So it's ok for short standing members to lea...   Mar 14 2012, 10:59 PM
barry-clari   You can always use the power of the PM to help out...   Mar 13 2012, 12:10 PM
Dugazon   I read the thread in question before things were d...   Mar 13 2012, 01:02 PM
VH2   A less superficial approach to moderation (Univers...   Mar 13 2012, 04:39 PM
linda.ff   A less superficial approach to moderation (Univer...   Mar 13 2012, 11:03 PM
VH2   A less superficial approach to moderation (Unive...   Mar 14 2012, 09:53 AM
carol*piano   You're asking for more heavy-handed moderati...   Mar 14 2012, 10:14 AM
Gertrude   No, not more heavy-handed but more correct, takin...   Mar 15 2012, 11:34 AM
linda.ff   [quote name='linda.ff' post='1135246' date='Mar 1...   Mar 14 2012, 01:31 PM
Aquarelle   You're asking for more heavy-handed moderatio...   Mar 15 2012, 01:54 PM
Cyrilla   I am sorry too - I think it would be a loss to th...   Mar 13 2012, 04:42 PM
viola-mad   I didn't see the thread in question, but just ...   Mar 14 2012, 11:39 AM
gwyntdi-enw   This is all very sad. I missed the particular pos...   Mar 14 2012, 11:41 AM
inigo   Oh bother! :( :( Don't go unless you real...   Mar 14 2012, 12:50 PM
Minstrel   Hang in there, Ffliwt. :grouphug:   Mar 14 2012, 10:57 PM

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