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> Nightmare teacher rant!
FullofWind
post May 14 2012, 02:16 PM
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post May 16 2012, 01:22 PM
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Maybe as parents when looking for teachers we should look at our own criteria for suitability, rather than just going on reputation, qualifications, geographic location etc.
I know I would be prepared to travel miles if it was the only way of accessing the most suitable tuition.
There are good and bad teachers, the same as there are parents.
We all have our opinions and sites like this are here for us to voice them.
Part of my criteria is foremost instrumental specialist, extensive professional performance experience , knowledge of education of music and ability to offer advice and guidance.
Not important is the ability to accompany in exams.
Personally I look for the higher musical qualifications rather than grade 8 and feel this is not a level to offer tuition. But this is my opinion.
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post May 16 2012, 10:22 PM
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Maybe as parents when looking for teachers we should look at our own criteria for suitability, rather than just going on reputation, qualifications, geographic location etc.
I know I would be prepared to travel miles if it was the only way of accessing the most suitable tuition.
There are good and bad teachers, the same as there are parents.
We all have our opinions and sites like this are here for us to voice them.
Part of my criteria is foremost instrumental specialist, extensive professional performance experience , knowledge of education of music and ability to offer advice and guidance.
Not important is the ability to accompany in exams.
Personally I look for the higher musical qualifications rather than grade 8 and feel this is not a level to offer tuition. But this is my opinion.


Hi onemoretime,

I'm curious to know why you feel grade 8 isn't a suitable level to offer tuition?,
I teach piano and have done for a while now. I'm working on my grade 8 practical at the moment and grade 6 theory. I would hope to have acheived both by next spring at the very latest.

All of my parents were told of my level before I took on any pupils (I have 14). I categorically told them that I'm not at the top of my game and that I'm still studying.
No one had a problem with that.
I'm currently on the Being an Effective Teacher Course that the ABRSM offer and I'm having excellent feedback on my assignments.

Now here's my opinion!, I think it's good to continue with personal, professional development. I think it might be rather easy to attain some wonderful qualifications and rest thereafter.

Here's a little point to ponder on, although it's regarding a different subject. My daughter who is in 2nd yr at high school has muddled through maths since primary school, she's never grasped it completely and she had as much support at home as we could give. When she started high school, I raised my concerns and was told that the maths dept/teacher would ensure she understood the lessons. Her teacher took great delight in rhyming off his qualifications at parents night last year however couldn't seem to convey his skills to my daughter. I then paid good money for a private tutor who was a DOCTOR of maths, and low and behold, she was still none the wiser!. Now any normal parent would, by this point, be possibly accepting that perhaps it was just my child and that was the way things were going to be in this subject.
However she started 2nd year and has a young teacher who hasn't been teaching very long, doesn't appear to have any airs and graces about her, and would you believe it, my daughter was practically in tears because suddenly she understands the subject. She describes it as "everything has fallen into place", She cannot believe that this teacher speaks to her in a way that she understands!
Just for the record my daughter doesn't have any learning difficulties!

So why do you believe that only those and such as those are worthy of teaching?.

By the way 10 of my 14 pupils have all sat exams grade 1, 2 & 3 and with the exception of 1, they all have merit passes, one who missed distinction by 2 marks! Am I really doing that badly?

Also, I perform every weekend with a band in various venues, I sing, play alto saxophone and keyboards, and have done for over 20 years. Does that make me suitable in the extensive professional performance experience department that you speak of?
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FullofWind   Nightmare teacher rant!   May 14 2012, 02:16 PM
Minstrel   :blink: ????????????   May 14 2012, 03:22 PM
Chris H   No show? :(   May 14 2012, 03:28 PM
Listener   Large G&T. Keep breathing   May 14 2012, 04:42 PM
Louise H   Deep breaths and let it out slowly! Hope it...   May 14 2012, 04:50 PM
FullofWind   Maybe I was just spoiled by the excellent teacher ...   May 14 2012, 05:29 PM
notmusimum   Maybe I was just spoiled by the excellent teacher...   May 14 2012, 07:38 PM
Scooby Doo   C'mon then, what's happened? Your rant kin...   May 14 2012, 07:53 PM
andante   Why is it that there are any number of threads ded...   May 15 2012, 08:52 AM
Chris H   Why is it that there are any number of threads de...   May 15 2012, 09:08 AM
Crotchetymum   Why is it that there are any number of threads d...   May 15 2012, 10:17 AM
FullofWind   Eek, sorry if I've caused trouble. I didn...   May 15 2012, 09:59 AM
Ayshah   I am utterly lost! :( What is this about? ...   May 15 2012, 10:02 AM
GMc   Well, I am the opposite of lost thanks to this thr...   May 15 2012, 10:34 AM
Scooby Doo   Well, I'd like to say thanks to EdGJ for moder...   May 15 2012, 10:59 AM
notmusimum   It's always been the same on this forum that t...   May 15 2012, 11:04 AM
Scooby Doo   Really? I seem to recall plenty of discussions eit...   May 15 2012, 11:22 AM
notmusimum   Really? I seem to recall plenty of discussions ei...   May 15 2012, 12:54 PM
onemoretime   Maybe as parents when looking for teachers we shou...   May 16 2012, 01:22 PM
owainsutton   Maybe as parents when looking for teachers we sho...   May 16 2012, 09:19 PM
chraze1   Maybe as parents when looking for teachers we sho...   May 16 2012, 10:22 PM
onemoretime   Maybe as parents when looking for teachers we sh...   May 17 2012, 10:07 PM
owainsutton   Firstly I would expect a Maths teacher to have mo...   May 17 2012, 10:33 PM
recollect   My intention was not to be nasty as I am not a nas...   May 16 2012, 03:08 PM
FullofWind   !It seems like we as teachers arent allowed to...   May 16 2012, 03:33 PM
notmusimum   My intention was not to be nasty as I am not a na...   May 16 2012, 06:50 PM
Seer_Green   I've been on this forum for more than 6 years...   May 16 2012, 08:39 PM
notmusimum   [I suppose that I come back to the same thing ove...   May 16 2012, 09:43 PM
andante   recollect, things are likely to be from a parent...   May 16 2012, 03:55 PM
recollect   My post to you notmusimum WAS sarcastic and not me...   May 16 2012, 07:57 PM
Ayshah   But of course we all know teachers of any subject ...   May 16 2012, 08:37 PM
violincjj   and where there IS discord let us bring harmony ...   May 16 2012, 09:04 PM
notmusimum   and where there IS discord let us bring harmony ...   May 16 2012, 09:59 PM
recollect   Wow,very powerful statements from the last few mes...   May 16 2012, 09:52 PM
recollect   You seem to me notmusimum to be the model parent w...   May 16 2012, 10:06 PM
notmusimum   You seem to me notmusimum to be the model parent ...   May 17 2012, 07:40 AM
violincjj   It's a lot easier to believe that the teacher ...   May 17 2012, 06:47 AM
notmusimum   It's a lot easier to believe that the teacher...   May 17 2012, 08:01 AM
andante   I was having a similar coversation elsewhere recen...   May 17 2012, 07:58 AM
saxophile   I was having a similar coversation elsewhere rece...   May 17 2012, 11:44 AM
flobiano   Reflecting more about choosing my own teacher but ...   May 17 2012, 12:24 PM
Claudia's Mum   It often doesn't manifest itself for a few ye...   May 17 2012, 02:03 PM
Seer_Green   All you parents must be very astute because in 1...   May 17 2012, 02:53 PM
Claudia's Mum   [quote name='Claudia's Mum' post='1148649' da...   May 17 2012, 07:30 PM
FullofWind   I probably wouldn't employ a teacher that did ...   May 17 2012, 01:42 PM
Seer_Green   I probably wouldn't employ a teacher that did...   May 17 2012, 01:45 PM
owainsutton   I probably wouldn't employ a teacher that did...   May 17 2012, 02:14 PM
ExpressYourself   Actually when I was a school teacher in secondary ...   May 17 2012, 02:19 PM
jonathanquinn   Due to having redaction by moderators I now have n...   May 17 2012, 05:08 PM
BadStrad   2. I would be very surprised if I found myself em...   May 17 2012, 07:29 PM
ExpressYourself   Wow Jonathan, what an experience you've had. ...   May 17 2012, 05:39 PM
corenfa   I started learning at age 4 with a teacher who ...   May 17 2012, 06:24 PM
Impressionist   ...But I think you'd agree that your bog stan...   May 17 2012, 07:00 PM
Seer_Green   I was thinking about this earlier as I had two new...   May 17 2012, 10:24 PM
FullofWind   I was thinking about this earlier as I had two ne...   May 18 2012, 10:49 AM
Seer_Green   I'm sure you are an excellent teacher Seer Gr...   May 18 2012, 11:31 AM
recollect   Hi Notmusimum.No I didnt know that your daughter w...   May 17 2012, 10:40 PM
jonathanquinn   Yes, correct in assuming that I am based in inner ...   May 17 2012, 10:43 PM
anacrusis   This and the other thread about nightmare parent b...   May 18 2012, 12:01 AM
flobiano   ...Ultimately - teachers have to be able to teach...   May 18 2012, 08:12 AM
anacrusis   ...Those who know enough about music to judge can...   May 18 2012, 11:14 PM
jonathanquinn   Not all gymnastics coaches have themselves been t...   May 19 2012, 12:32 AM
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ExpressYourself   Firstly I would expect a Maths teacher to have mo...   May 18 2012, 07:06 AM
Chris H   I would be horrified if the head of maths, or even...   May 18 2012, 07:46 AM
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Listener   LSSO had a large contingent of children who atten...   May 22 2012, 01:55 PM
notmusimum   The tendency of music centre staff to favour pupi...   May 22 2012, 05:02 PM
sbhoa   Does it matter how many of your pupils are grade...   May 18 2012, 10:35 AM
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all ears   A timely subject...son Viohazard has been at unive...   May 18 2012, 12:18 PM
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Scooby Doo   carpet-beating approach to piano :rofl: :rofl:...   May 18 2012, 08:51 PM
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katica   I've been reading this thread with interest fr...   May 19 2012, 05:50 PM

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