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saxlover
Campaign for the Removal of Aural Perfidiousness.



I'm in!! Anyone else!?
BabyBanana
yes me to smile.gif
Trebor
I'll join smile.gif
Helen
Just the removal of the singing bit wink.gif
saxlover
No..all of it"!!!
sl123451
what is aural perfidsousness?
Helen
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 10 2005, 11:08 PM)
No..all of it"!!!
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rolleyes.gif I'd be ok ish with the rest.... I think... unsure.gif ph34r.gif It's just singing which features a lot... unsure.gif
saxlover
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Betraying me *sobs* sad.gif

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Boo Radley
QUOTE(sl123451 @ Nov 10 2005, 11:10 PM)
what is aural perfidsousness?
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Take the initials of the full title! wink.gif
maggiemay
LOL
and another reading is the campaign for the removal of AP which I couldn't support!!
janexxx
QUOTE(maggiemay @ Nov 11 2005, 08:58 AM)
LOL
and another reading is the campaign for the removal of AP which I couldn't support!!
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Campaign for the *Retention* of AP maybe laugh.gif
diapason
Bring back the optional and alternative tests for Piano and Organ - "Harmonize at Sight the Given Melody" and "Continue a Melodic Line from the given 4 bars".

saxlover
It is not AP don't panic hehe
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sarah-flute
Is there no option for keyboard harmony these days? Not that I would have done it ohmy.gif *scary*
sbhoa
QUOTE(Helen @ Nov 10 2005, 11:08 PM)
Just the removal of the singing bit wink.gif
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That's the easiest part!
sbhoa
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Nov 11 2005, 10:45 AM)
Is there no option for keyboard harmony these days? Not that I would have done it ohmy.gif *scary*
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No, I think I could have coped with that.
I have an old copy of the tests and they were not very complicated.
shimmer
The singing bit has got to go! I'm convinced it's the reason I only got a merit in my last exam. sad.gif And it's the cause of all my nervousness. mad.gif
YetAnotherPianist
QUOTE(diapason @ Nov 11 2005, 09:34 AM)
Bring back the optional and alternative tests for Piano and Organ - "Harmonize at Sight the Given Melody"  and  "Continue a Melodic Line from the given 4 bars".
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Wow, they would be so much better - I don't mind aural (perfect pitch helps) but still find the memory tests stressful, so I'd love an alternative smile.gif.

Some other music examination boards (is it LCM or VCM? I'm sure someone will know) allow one to be exempt from the aural tests in the exam, being given full marks, if one has a good mark in practical musicianship in the grade, as sufficient skills have been demonstrated there. I'd love it if the AB offered this option too - it'd encourage the uptake of practical musicianship skills, arguably more useful than the academic exercises in the aural tests, and one wouldn't have to repeat aural tests in every exam one sat.
AnotherPianist
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 11 2005, 11:23 AM)
It is not AP don't panic hehe
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laugh.gif well I certainly couldn't join the campaign for the removal of AP unsure.gif. Maybe my next statement will get the campaign renamed to that though ph34r.gif.

I quite like the aural tests in the exams, I find them the least stressful marks to get: pieces one works hard on; scales, although not 'difficult' when practised, do require quite a bit of practice; sightreading is worrying because having practised it one could get a horrible example that one doesn't get along with; but aural is just a few questions, if one question is nasty one will lose at most one or two marks and the rest will probably be okay. It's certainly the section I usually put the lest effort into (explicitly that is although I do listen to a lot of music anyway) and my marks aren't generally lower. So I'd like to keep aural; it's the quickest source of marks in the exam biggrin.gif. I wouldn't choose to remove aural from my next exam even if I could (assuming that the other option was to have the other marks scaled of course; if it was to be awarded the 18 marks for nothing then I'd go for that wink.gif).
sarah-flute
I'm like AP, aural has always been the easy part for me and I think my lowest mark for it in AB exams is 16/18.
Jen W
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Nov 11 2005, 01:06 PM)
I'm like AP, aural has always been the easy part for me and I think my lowest mark for it in AB exams is 16/18.
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Yep, me too!! I had full marks last time, so I feel I can at least count on this section, even if I let myself down in the others dry.gif .
Helen
QUOTE(Jen W @ Nov 11 2005, 01:42 PM)
I had full marks last time,
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Pah. dry.gif










Just kidding biggrin.gif
Kflute
Aural Shmaural biggrin.gif tongue.gif
SteveHopwood
Count me in. I'd have joined earlier but I have only just sseen this.

Steve biggrin.gif
saxlover
How can anyone get good marks for aural...its mental...I hate it..pointless pathetic (insert rude word here) biggrin.gif
neil.clarinet
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 11 2005, 03:37 PM)
How can anyone get good marks for aural
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Shall I suggest one way. wink.gif
YetAnotherPianist
... bribery? wink.gif

That said, I have no idea how other people get good marks in aural: I have no idea what techniques they might be using....

saxlover
Having a deaf examiner I guess
neil.clarinet
Keep guessing. rolleyes.gif
YetAnotherPianist
Skimpy clothing? wink.gif
neil.clarinet
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Nov 11 2005, 03:57 PM)
Skimpy clothing? wink.gif
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Now there's an idea ph34r.gif
Car Expert
QUOTE(Boo Radley @ Nov 10 2005, 11:53 PM)
QUOTE(sl123451 @ Nov 10 2005, 11:10 PM)
what is aural perfidsousness?
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Take the initials of the full title! wink.gif
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*CONFUZZLED*

Car Expert
saxlover
QUOTE(neil.clarinet @ Nov 11 2005, 03:56 PM)
Keep guessing. rolleyes.gif
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Don't say practice because that is a load of codswallop
neil.clarinet
KODALY!!!!!!! biggrin.gif
saxlover
Oh, narh
zoda
QUOTE(Kflute @ Nov 11 2005, 02:37 PM)
Aural Shmaural  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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ohmy.gif

Nar then young lady, is that what the' teach thee at' Royal College o' Northern Myoe-sic?
Jen W
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 11 2005, 03:37 PM)
How can anyone get good marks for aural...its mental...I hate it..pointless pathetic (insert rude word here) biggrin.gif
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Hehe - some of us need them, Nat, to make up for our other deficiencies unsure.gif (well, I mean, I do biggrin.gif !)
sarah-flute
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Nov 11 2005, 03:57 PM)
Skimpy clothing? wink.gif
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QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Nov 11 2005, 03:54 PM)
That said, I have no idea how other people get good marks in aural: I have no idea what techniques they might be using....
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Singing back a tune: never had a "technique", just don't have a problem with doing that.

Clapping back a rhythm: been doing that since I was 7, never been a problem.

Sight-singing: well I know my intervals well tongue.gif and sight-sing a lot, and thus far the grade 4 one that I did (with no previous practice) and the grade 4 5 and 6 sight-singing samples that I have done have been easy. I was a bit unsure on the grade 4 one, I think that's where I lost a couple of marks sad.gif but mainly because I was rather diffident, I should have trusted myself more.

The bit about features of a piece: not too bad if you have fairly good general musical knowledge, or at least the ones I have done.

What else is there? I can't remember.

I've never done a Kodaly lesson in my life and find aurals generally the easiest part of the exam, so though it seems to be a good way it isn't the only way. Not sure I've ever used "techniques" - just been well taught.
Boo Radley
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Nov 11 2005, 03:59 PM)
QUOTE(Boo Radley @ Nov 10 2005, 11:53 PM)
QUOTE(sl123451 @ Nov 10 2005, 11:10 PM)
what is aural perfidsousness?
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Take the initials of the full title! wink.gif
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*CONFUZZLED*

Car Expert
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Campaign for the Removal of Aural Perfidiousness
saxlover
Indeed
SteveHopwood
I just had a thought. I can enrol on their behalf, every student I ever entered for graded and professional standard music exams.

That takes the membership to just over 1,000. laugh.gif

Steve biggrin.gif
saxlover
Wow Steve..that will help so much.

I can't thank you enough biggrin.gif
SteveHopwood
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 11 2005, 11:59 PM)
Wow Steve..that will help so much.

I can't thank you enough biggrin.gif
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Actually, come to think about it, many former students are now earning a living as musicians. All but the most stunning performers have to teach, so:

I unilaterally sign up all students of my former students as members.

This should take the membership up to about 3,000.

We're on a roll.

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saxlover
Ooh yey..this campaign is really taking off biggrin.gif
ben_walker446
I'll Join! biggrin.gif
Dulciana
Isn't it at Easter that ressurrection occurs? blink.gif
Having had to sight-sing in public the other week as the only alto, I have decided that it's not something I will ever be doing again! There were pupils of mine in the audience who were mortified on my behalf, and one was overheard saying to her mother as I stood up, "OMG, she really can't sing, you know; I know from when we do the aural tests..."
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