Hello I need some recorder music with flutter-tonguing and glissandos and stuff like that.
can be for any recorder from garklein to bass
dose anyone know of anything like this?
thanks
Ben again.

The Alan Davis Cantus Avium et Volatus (published by Trinity), and for either descant or treble would fit the bill. (Bit of a subtle pun there ). The last few pieces contain lots of different extended techniques.

Smashing thanks
where can I get it from? what sort of grade it it?
thanks
Ben again.

The pieces in it are from Grade 1 to 8 (in order), as they can be used for Trinity exams instead of scales for each grade. You could check on the Trinity website for stockists, but you may find it's available from a good local music shop as it's essentially an exam book.

also Hans-Martin Linde - the Fantasien & Scherzi has flutter-tonguing, glisses and pulsed vibrato. Music for a Bird has chords, flutter-tonguing,glissandi,vibrato using the hand over the labium. Guus Haverkate, 12 advanced studies for descant, book 2, has a piece called "danse macabre" with flutter-tonguing and quarter-tones. The first two are diploma-level - ATCL/dipABRSM, and the Haverkate is grade 8 (Trinity). I know there are other Haverkate books, but haven't seen the music, so can't comment on the other pieces.

How DO you play that?!

someone published a link somewhere (sorry, I continue to be useless at finding stuff on the fora) about that - Galway making a whole audience go ha-ha-ha in time to a beat...but that, basically, is the technique. Fantasien & Scherzi, , has bits where you have to, er, vibrate, in time to a beat. Mine is ropey, obviously not enough experience in pantomime laughing. ha
I'm also trying to get a perfectly normal baroque piece to "warm up" in places - a very few, select, places - by means of a weeny bit of vibrato at the ends of very long notes. A weird experience for someone who really doesn't like the sound of the vibrato used in modern orchestras today...

I'm no expert, but I'd imagine pulsed vibrato is much easier than flutter tonguing...

I've never had any trouble going "fwffffthrrrrrrrrrrrrrrarp!" but don't giggle to order...

Haverkate book 1 has one or two lovely pieces - the rumba is quite easy (grade 6 ABRSM) and includes a short burst of flutter tonguing (and it's great fun to play). The others use a mixture of other techniques.

Listened to a masterclass with John Turner and the pupil was doing "The Fly"- apparently its a diploma piece - it definitley needed flutter tonguing. It was out of a set of studies - haiku studies?
I'm sure that someone can tell us the name of the pieces if we wait long enough.
It was very fast and very impressive!

I took delivery today of a piece for bass recorder called The Voice of the Crocodile. I don't even understand the first two pages, let alone have a chance of playing them.

Excellent. I have a couple of recordings of this. The shouting made me jump first time I listened to it!

Are they commercially-produced recordings, and, if so, who's playing?

I'm very intrigued that it's actually incomprehensible...

It's also indescribable, and I can't do a quick scan of it or I'd infringe the copyright.

Crumbs. Indescribable and incomprehensible... I'd rather you than me...

Probably not me either. I should have taken notice of the rating on the Moeck (publisher) website, which gave it a 5 - the most difficult rating. But I was lulled into a false sense of security by its being on the Performers' Certificate list.

I've found about 4 conventionally written notes on the first two pages. The rest are multiphonics and strange symbols. The music is written on two staves - one for recorder, and one for voice, although the voice is articulating nonsense syllables rather than singing in this section.

Good grief, that sounds insane

My teacher lent me the music for a piece by Maki Ishi, called Black Intention, which sounds a bit like that. He'd let me borrow a CD of some avant-garde music to try to inspire me over the Linde piece I'd been bellyaching over, and thought I ought to see what the player was doing. It includes two recorders at once, singing and playing, mad notes and bits repeated so fast you can't see the dots...another one, called Fragmente, by Makoto Shinohara, has a lot of symbols not known to me. Thank goodness my teacher isn't expecting me to try to learn it all!
One of the things which does bother me is the number of descriptions and instructions needed to learn the music - I found learning the Haverkate piece beastly because of that, when really it wasn't so very hard to play once the motor memory could take over.

It's from 'Four Haiku' by Nicholas Marshall, in 'Pieces for Solo Recorder, vol 1' (Forsyth, ed. John Turner). All three of my pupils who have taken the DipABRSM played these as part of their programme. They're excellent pieces - I really like them - but apart from the tiny bit of flutter-tonguing in The Fly they don't use any modern techniques, so they're probably not the sort of thing the OP is looking for!

Yes, one is on a CD called Recorderist and features Pete Rose. The other is played by Benjamin Thorn himself and is on a CD called Songs of Love and Marriage (which I had to order from Australia).

Thanks for that, benjaminja. I've just found that you can listen to the first two pages and a bit here. It gives me a chance to hear what it's supposed to sound like, but I can't imagine myself performing it. I'm not sure how well it would work with a female voice.

And as for the next (conventionally-notated) page. I might be able to play it (in time), but I'm not sure I could ever sing it.

Just listening....

I saw him do the very same! the girl who played it was VERY good!!

Did this happen to be at SRP playday in Stretford back in October?



THAT IS SO WIERD!

Yep, that's the one! I quite like it, actually

I like it too, I'd love to see the music!

Just noticed it is also on the FRSM Recorder syllabus...

I can't - keep getting an error message "file path not found" or something.

Zahnhausen....he composed four pieces each entitled after the four seasons...I have played (as far as I can remember) Autum or Spring...one of the 'middle seasons'!!!!! All of those have elements of what you are looking for, also each 'movement' can be composed for different recorder...I did one that the first movement was Treble, and the second descant.

Performers certificate for Trinity...and to think I was gonna ask to do this for it as well

Thanks all I am getting the Hans-Martin Linde - the Fantasien & Scherzi.
Sounds fun

Go for it! And don't listen to bellyaching fuddy-duddies who have moaned about it...
(I've just analysed it for my programme notes - see if you can spot the rogue note in the middle of an ornament in the last movement. Think twelve-tone and serialism... )