Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 07:22 PM
Hi everyone.
I know how you all dont like it when me and Ben argue, which I dont like either. I have tried to sort things out, and I have also been thinking. Would you like me to leave these forums?
Please give me an honest opinion am also having a confidence crisis at the moment, mine has ran off. If anyone finds it please send it back
sbhoa
Dec 20 2006, 07:25 PM
No reason to leave Soph.
If you really can't help arguing with Ben you could just block him, though I can't recall anything particularly bad.
I've not seen your confidence lying around.... go and look in the party thread, if it's not there at least you can have a good time looking.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 07:29 PM
QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:25 PM)

No reason to leave Soph.
If you really can't help arguing with Ben you could just block him, though I can't recall anything particularly bad.
I've not seen your confidence lying around.... go and look in the party thread, if it's not there at least you can have a good time looking.

The thing is, I want to sort things out with Ben I dont like arguing with him.
I think I will give the party a miss, I am not sure if I am welcome at the minute
katyjay
Dec 20 2006, 07:30 PM
Soph, it would be an awful shame if you left.
If I were you, I'd avoid posting any answer at all to Ben's posts. That way the two of you won't argue.
But keep posting generally, keep reading the forums and taking part. And don't worry.
sbhoa
Dec 20 2006, 07:32 PM
QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:25 PM)

No reason to leave Soph.
If you really can't help arguing with Ben you could just block him, though I can't recall anything particularly bad.
I've not seen your confidence lying around.... go and look in the party thread, if it's not there at least you can have a good time looking.

The thing is, I want to sort things out with Ben I dont like arguing with him.
I think I will give the party a miss, I am not sure if I am welcome at the minute

Have you told him?
And you've got 2 minutes to get your party frock on and get in there.
Of course you are welcome, there's a chocolate fountain waiting to be attacked in there....
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 07:35 PM
QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:32 PM)

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:25 PM)

No reason to leave Soph.
If you really can't help arguing with Ben you could just block him, though I can't recall anything particularly bad.
I've not seen your confidence lying around.... go and look in the party thread, if it's not there at least you can have a good time looking.

The thing is, I want to sort things out with Ben I dont like arguing with him.
I think I will give the party a miss, I am not sure if I am welcome at the minute

Have you told him?
And you've got 2 minutes to get your party frock on and get in there.
Of course you are welcome, there's a chocolate fountain waiting to be attacked in there....

I have told him, I asked him to come onto msn to talk and last night he said he would. Now he is ignoring me. I dont know what else I can do.
I dont have a dress.
katyjay
Dec 20 2006, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:35 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:32 PM)

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:25 PM)

No reason to leave Soph.
If you really can't help arguing with Ben you could just block him, though I can't recall anything particularly bad.
I've not seen your confidence lying around.... go and look in the party thread, if it's not there at least you can have a good time looking.

The thing is, I want to sort things out with Ben I dont like arguing with him.
I think I will give the party a miss, I am not sure if I am welcome at the minute

Have you told him?
And you've got 2 minutes to get your party frock on and get in there.
Of course you are welcome, there's a chocolate fountain waiting to be attacked in there....

I have told him, I asked him to come onto msn to talk and last night he said he would. Now he is ignoring me. I dont know what else I can do.
I dont have a dress.

Come to the party
without a dress, then. Cause a sensation! (Just kidding)
Come to the party in whatever virtual outfit you like.
sbhoa
Dec 20 2006, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:35 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:32 PM)

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:25 PM)

No reason to leave Soph.
If you really can't help arguing with Ben you could just block him, though I can't recall anything particularly bad.
I've not seen your confidence lying around.... go and look in the party thread, if it's not there at least you can have a good time looking.

The thing is, I want to sort things out with Ben I dont like arguing with him.
I think I will give the party a miss, I am not sure if I am welcome at the minute

Have you told him?
And you've got 2 minutes to get your party frock on and get in there.
Of course you are welcome, there's a chocolate fountain waiting to be attacked in there....

I have told him, I asked him to come onto msn to talk and last night he said he would. Now he is ignoring me. I dont know what else I can do.
I dont have a dress.

Maybe he's been busy?
Clean jeans and top will do.

Cinderella WILL go to the party.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 07:38 PM
QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:36 PM)

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:35 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:32 PM)

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:25 PM)

No reason to leave Soph.
If you really can't help arguing with Ben you could just block him, though I can't recall anything particularly bad.
I've not seen your confidence lying around.... go and look in the party thread, if it's not there at least you can have a good time looking.

The thing is, I want to sort things out with Ben I dont like arguing with him.
I think I will give the party a miss, I am not sure if I am welcome at the minute

Have you told him?
And you've got 2 minutes to get your party frock on and get in there.
Of course you are welcome, there's a chocolate fountain waiting to be attacked in there....

I have told him, I asked him to come onto msn to talk and last night he said he would. Now he is ignoring me. I dont know what else I can do.
I dont have a dress.

Maybe he's been busy?
Clean jeans and top will do.

He just wont talk to me.
I want to sort things so we can actually get on with each other.
IrisH - LoonY
Dec 20 2006, 07:40 PM
If you want a REAL argument, you should see my past experiences...
katyjay
Dec 20 2006, 07:41 PM
Chris, convince Soph that this is a good place to stay once you chill out a bit and learn to ignore the grumpy people.
nicki_flute
Dec 20 2006, 07:42 PM
*reponds to call of help from the forum party thread*
Come on Soph, let your hair down, and come and help me polish off some marshmallows
barry-clari
Dec 20 2006, 07:46 PM
I'm going to be very brief.
This is a good forum, frequented by lots of nice people. If I were you Soph, I'd continue to use the forum, enjoying all it has to offer.
IrisH - LoonY
Dec 20 2006, 07:47 PM
Soph, seriously, it's not that bad when you ignore certain people on here. Heck, one person I argued with became my teacher! incidentally I've met a few people from here too who I'm pretty sure were caught up in the arguments (hannah, Oddball, nicki_flute etc)
Use block, don't respond to unplesantness and you'll be fine!
sbhoa
Dec 20 2006, 07:48 PM
See, Soph, you'll have to come to the party now that your thread has been hijacked.
katyjay
Dec 20 2006, 07:48 PM
QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:41 PM)

Chris, convince Soph that this is a good place to stay once you chill out a bit and learn to ignore the grumpy people.
Actually, I'll modify this a bit and say ignore the sort of people who pick to bits everything you say with the express intention of causing irritation.
mrbouffant
Dec 20 2006, 07:49 PM
QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:48 PM)

QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:41 PM)

Chris, convince Soph that this is a good place to stay once you chill out a bit and learn to ignore the grumpy people.
Actually, I'll modify this a bit and say ignore the sort of people who pick to bits everything you say with the express intention of causing irritation.
IT'S A JOKE The intention was to make you chuckle. Obviously we are as far apart on this as Soph and Ben are at resolving their differences...
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 07:50 PM
Ben if you read this, please??
ben_walker446
Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM
Ahhh another thread to do with me. Will there be anymore soon?
katyjay
Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM
QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Dec 20 2006, 07:49 PM)

QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:48 PM)

QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:41 PM)

Chris, convince Soph that this is a good place to stay once you chill out a bit and learn to ignore the grumpy people.
Actually, I'll modify this a bit and say ignore the sort of people who pick to bits everything you say with the express intention of causing irritation.
IT'S A JOKE The intention was to make you chuckle. Obviously we are as far apart on this as Soph and Ben are at resolving their differences...
I'm awfully sorry, MrB but I don't find humour in people deliberately seeking to embarrass, wrong-foot, demean, humiliate or irritate others.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 07:56 PM
QUOTE(ben_walker446 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM)

Ahhh another thread to do with me. Will there be anymore soon?
Ok I get the message.
I am going to go now
Car Expert
Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:56 PM)

QUOTE(ben_walker446 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM)

Ahhh another thread to do with me. Will there be anymore soon?
Ok I get the message.
I am going to go now

Not forever I hope...
Car Expert
sbhoa
Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:56 PM)

QUOTE(ben_walker446 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM)

Ahhh another thread to do with me. Will there be anymore soon?
Ok I get the message.
I am going to go now

AAAAGGGHHHHH!
Soph, please go and enjoy the party.
Most people want you there.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM)

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:56 PM)

QUOTE(ben_walker446 @ Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM)

Ahhh another thread to do with me. Will there be anymore soon?
Ok I get the message.
I am going to go now

AAAAGGGHHHHH!
Soph, please go and enjoy the party.
Most people want you there.
Ben has made his point, I am leaving for his sake of not anyone elses.
barry-clari
Dec 20 2006, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM)

Soph, please go and enjoy the party.
Most people want you there.
I'd rephrase 'most' as 'pretty much all'

I do hope that post above doesn't refer to a permanent departure Soph. For now, talk to other people on the forum.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 08:11 PM
QUOTE(barry-clari @ Dec 20 2006, 07:59 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM)

Soph, please go and enjoy the party.
Most people want you there.
I'd rephrase 'most' as 'pretty much all'

I do hope that post above doesn't refer to a permanent departure Soph. For now, talk to other people on the forum.
I think it will be a permanent departure, I dont want Ben hating me anymore, and he cant if i am not there

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 08:04 PM)

QUOTE(barry-clari @ Dec 20 2006, 07:59 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM)

Soph, please go and enjoy the party.
Most people want you there.
I'd rephrase 'most' as 'pretty much all'

I do hope that post above doesn't refer to a permanent departure Soph. For now, talk to other people on the forum.
I think it will be a permanent departure, I dont want Ben hating me anymore, and he cant if i am not there

I hope you enjoy the party.
Ben why wont you listen to me?
YetAnotherPianist
Dec 20 2006, 08:18 PM
Soph15, from your posts I've always thought you were a little prone to becoming upset by your friends - not just Ben. Try to focus on the positive: it appears from the other posts in this thread that you are liked, so although you and Ben might have some issues, the forums as a whole don't hate you

.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 08:22 PM
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Dec 20 2006, 08:18 PM)

Soph15, from your posts I've always thought you were a little prone to becoming upset by your friends - not just Ben. Try to focus on the positive: it appears from the other posts in this thread that you are liked, so although you and Ben might have some issues, the forums as a whole don't hate you

.
Thanks, it probably has something to do with my confidence which I dont have.
I just want Ben to realise that I want to sort things out with him. When I am on the forums, people dont like it if me and Ben start to get at each other and neither do I.
Ben has made it clear what he thinks and I think I should leave. I am sorry everyone if I have caused any trounle on here.
YetAnotherPianist
Dec 20 2006, 08:29 PM
I hadn't actually noticed you fighting with Ben, I only dip in and out and honestly hadn't seen a single incident of it.
Self confidence takes time, when I was your age I had very little of it, and was nervous talking to people I didn't know; let alone giving a lecture to a room full of university students. Things do get easier as one gets older though, and although that doesn't make things better for you right now, hang in there

.
I don't think leaving the forums is the best thing to do here - perhaps if Ben and yourself both agree to 'Ignore User' each other, you could stay around for a bit and see if you're any happier?
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 08:31 PM
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Dec 20 2006, 08:29 PM)

I hadn't actually noticed you fighting with Ben, I only dip in and out and honestly hadn't seen a single incident of it.
Self confidence takes time, when I was your age I had very little of it, and was nervous talking to people I didn't know; let alone giving a lecture to a room full of university students. Things do get easier as one gets older though, and although that doesn't make things better for you right now, hang in there

.
I don't think leaving the forums is the best thing to do here - perhaps if Ben and yourself both agree to 'Ignore User' each other, you could stay around for a bit and see if you're any happier?

The thing is i WANT to sort things with Ben and it is making me unhappy that he is ignoring me.
bobifier
Dec 20 2006, 08:34 PM
Ben appears to be online, if you like I could probably talk to him...
YetAnotherPianist
Dec 20 2006, 08:36 PM
QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 08:31 PM)

The thing is i WANT to sort things with Ben and it is making me unhappy that he is ignoring me.
I know that's what you want, and it would be great if you could manage that. However, it sounds like you two need a little space to 'lick wounds' and 'Ignore User' would let you do that. Once you've both calmed down, you could then talk things over from a more rational perspective

.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 08:36 PM
QUOTE(bobifier @ Dec 20 2006, 08:34 PM)

Ben appears to be online, if you like I could probably talk to him...
Please would you do that??
bobifier
Dec 20 2006, 08:38 PM
What would you like me to say?
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 08:39 PM
QUOTE(bobifier @ Dec 20 2006, 08:38 PM)

What would you like me to say?
I just want us to sort things out. I want to know what is going on. Thankyou so much.
bobifier
Dec 20 2006, 08:49 PM
Ben says he isn't talking to you because that only seems to make things worse and you get more upset and won't listen.
Sorry, I don't really know much about how to deal with this, but maybe you should try to sit down and have a civilised, rather unemotional conversation to get things sorted out.
YetAnotherPianist
Dec 20 2006, 09:00 PM
Soph15 - this might sound terribly arrogant, but I'm just trying to help. Something else one learns with time is when to walk away and leave it for another day. It seems like one of these times, and I think making up with Ben should be changed from a short-term to a medium-term goal. Try your best not to dwell on it, do something enjoy if you can, and talk to some other people.
Soph15
Dec 20 2006, 09:06 PM
I am sorry everyone but I dont feel I should come here anymore, I dont want other people to feel they have to stop me and Ben arguing when it happens on here. The easiest way for this to happen is without me here.

It isnt what I want but I am reaching breaking point.
mrbouffant
Dec 20 2006, 09:32 PM
QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM)

I'm awfully sorry, MrB but I don't find humour in people deliberately seeking to embarrass, wrong-foot, demean, humiliate or irritate others.
I have already stated what I was "deliberately seeking" to do, which is of course none of the things you enumerate.
I apologise yet again to you if you've taken my light-hearted intentions the wrong way.
Perhaps it's the case that had anyone else written those things, you would have laughed, but since it was my name attached to them you are eminently predisposed for whatever reason now to take a completely negative view of anything I post. Demonstrably my track record hereon has been one of support, warmth and humour. You know this as recipient of my first-hand support in the past, so I'm not sure why you would take the opposite view now.
If I had to put it in one word, it's "bemused".
bobifier
Dec 20 2006, 09:35 PM
QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Dec 20 2006, 09:32 PM)

QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM)

I'm awfully sorry, MrB but I don't find humour in people deliberately seeking to embarrass, wrong-foot, demean, humiliate or irritate others.
I have already stated what I was "deliberately seeking" to do, which is of course none of the things you enumerate.
I apologise yet again to you if you've taken my humorous intentions the wrong way.
Perhaps it's the case that had anyone else written those things, you would have laughed, but since it was my name attached to them you are eminently predisposed for whatever reason now to take a completely negative view of anything I post. I'd love to know why.
Honestly Sophie, what you and Ben get up to can't be any worse than THAT!!!
katyjay
Dec 20 2006, 09:40 PM
QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Dec 20 2006, 09:32 PM)

QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 20 2006, 07:54 PM)

I'm awfully sorry, MrB but I don't find humour in people deliberately seeking to embarrass, wrong-foot, demean, humiliate or irritate others.
I have already stated what I was "deliberately seeking" to do, which is of course none of the things you enumerate.
I apologise yet again to you if you've taken my humorous intentions the wrong way.
Perhaps it's the case that had anyone else written those things, you would have laughed, but since it was my name attached to them you are eminently predisposed for whatever reason now to take a completely negative view of anything I post. I'd love to know why.
I accept your apology. I do assure you that it is not the case that I would have found such things funny if anyone else posted them. It is unfortunate that the times I have noticed postings that I feel are motivated by an inclination to derive humour at my expense they have been by you. If I am reprehensible, it is probably in a failure to speak out where I see such behaviour at another's expense. Offhand I can't think of an example and hope not to find one in future.
Perhaps in the interests of peace on earth and goodwill to all mankind you'll ignore my posts and, in return, I will do likewise.
maggiemay
Dec 20 2006, 09:46 PM
Oh Soph - I was hoping to meet you at the party - please don't stay away !
chocolatedog
Dec 20 2006, 11:40 PM
QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 08:11 PM)

QUOTE(barry-clari @ Dec 20 2006, 07:59 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM)

Soph, please go and enjoy the party.
Most people want you there.
I'd rephrase 'most' as 'pretty much all'

I do hope that post above doesn't refer to a permanent departure Soph. For now, talk to other people on the forum.
I think it will be a permanent departure, I dont want Ben hating me anymore, and he cant if i am not there

QUOTE(Soph15 @ Dec 20 2006, 08:04 PM)

QUOTE(barry-clari @ Dec 20 2006, 07:59 PM)

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Dec 20 2006, 07:57 PM)

Soph, please go and enjoy the party.
Most people want you there.
I'd rephrase 'most' as 'pretty much all'

I do hope that post above doesn't refer to a permanent departure Soph. For now, talk to other people on the forum.
I think it will be a permanent departure, I dont want Ben hating me anymore, and he cant if i am not there

I hope you enjoy the party.
Ben why wont you listen to me?

Just ignore him - he's obviously not worth your attention..........
Dulciana
Dec 21 2006, 12:51 AM
Good grief....
petrat
Dec 21 2006, 01:16 AM
Don't leave! This is a friendly place. Just ignore any posters who upset or annoy you. We all learn how.
ShArOn_StAr92
Dec 21 2006, 03:09 AM
look on the bright side of things! dont worry, as you can see, majority of the forumites dont wanna you to leave... this forum is a nice place for you to talk about your interests, share your opinions etc. i'm sure you love this forum dont you? try to ignore those who irritates you or upset you etc. dont be upset by what they said... just imagine yourself as a tree and dont get blown away by the wind, dont get hit easily by anything... always stand up for yourself...
not sure if this helps... my apology if i sounded too "... ..."
ShArOn
Soph15
Dec 21 2006, 09:58 AM
Hi everyone, sorry about last night I had to go. If I dont use these forums again then bye and I am sorry for being like I have been.
Maybe see you all soon maybe not, and as you probably guessed I wasnt in the party mood.
katyjay
Dec 21 2006, 09:59 AM
Take a little time out if you want to, Soph, but don't forget us and come back soon.
Soph15
Dec 21 2006, 10:00 AM
QUOTE(katyjay @ Dec 21 2006, 09:59 AM)

Take a little time out if you want to, Soph, but don't forget us and come back soon.
Goodbye
sneekymum
Dec 21 2006, 10:02 AM
If I might steal a line from Mary Poppins...
"But she can't leave - I was only just getting used to her."
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