When you start or reply a thread, it has a list of what you aren't allowed to do.

It says "no trolling"

what does that mean?

hehe great thread isn't it!!

lv lucy [x]

They are there for a reason...

Car Expert

Haven't you seen Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone?????

Trolling is the act of letting a troll onto the premises.......

Controversy for the sake of controversy.

I end up getting accused of trolling when all I'm doing is expressing my opinion. I'm not deliberately trying to upset people, I'm just passionate about some matters.

Basically, if you find there's someone you really really don't like, they're probably a troll.

But if everybody had somebody who they didn't like, that would make every "somebody" a troll...


< just demonstrating trollness >

CE gets upset when you don't look at his faqs! All us virtuosos were forced to read them all through!

You get accused of trolling when you start injecting into an unrelated thread sentiments which have already forced two other threads to be locked. Does that sound familiar, jod?

Something similar to that comment, then?

I just started piano lessons a week ago - I'm currently working on Beethoven's Waldstein sonata and I can play all the notes - the rhythm isn't really that important anyway. I think I should ask my teacher if I can do my LRSM diploma next month......is there anyone else on the forums as talented as me?

Yeah, like that.

Wow - superpyroman, that's pretty impressive progress.........I think you should get your teacher to show you how the rhythm goes, but apart from that, why not??? Yes I think you should go for your LRSM ........ and yes, there are a lot of talented people on the forum - I learned the entire Beethoven sonatas in a fortnight (although I really wouldn't like to sound arrogant.......) ......

Goodness, you're rather slow, aren't you?

</sarcasm>

well I suppose that's alright... I can play all of his symphonys on the piano by pressing notes so quickly and in different rythms that they sound like different instruments. I learnt to do it in a week and only use one hand.

Sorry to disagree but I think that you would need at least two days longer and one hand and one foot to do all of this properly.
I learnt to play the violin last week, on thursday and I can play the string parts of all of his symphonies now. I am going to learn the unnacompanied Bach partitas next monday.

Ah but I was rather busy that fortnight - I had to learn all the Mozart and Haydn sonatas in the same space of time, together with the complete Beethoven and Mozart Piano Concertos.........

Never mind that, in the past two weeks, I invented a time machine, went back in time and wrote the Beethoven piano sonatas.

Now Mr B that was below the belt... trolling perhaps? I only injected that particular comment as interpersonal relationships between church staff can cause a nightmare for some organists. I had also had my husband berating church musicians and their attitude to clergy for the best part of a month. Now if that is trolling then I'm a troll, but I think you'll find I'm not.

Being a nump for the sake of being a nump

That's just you, I must be a better pianist than you, thoiugh I do use my nose for one of them.


I invented a curious device which convinces people that they went back in time and wrote beethoven sonatas

I invented Beethoven......

I used to teach little Ludwig, and a very good pupil he was too.

So did you know Dear Belly?

Little Anton! Yes, taught him too. I helped him with his publishing house.

Did you know I actually invented publishing??

Ah well, genius needs to sleep sometime.......will say goodnight until the morrow dear friends..........

I invented the five-nib stave drawing pen.

Hardly a troll when you've just perfectly illustrated exactly what I was saying! I rest my case!

So... Trolling means being 'orible to someone then.................................................................?

No, it doesn't necessarily mean that.

Typically a troll is someone who comes to a forum with the clear intent of being disruptive. For example, there was a guy who came here a while ago who was constantly going on about how brilliant he was, how quickly he'd learned, and how comparitively rubbish we all consequently must be. It was clearly a wind up, and intended to disrupt the forum.

I don't think jod's comment or Mr B's on this thread quite count as trolling. While they might be engaging in a bit of mild point scoring, their intention is to contribute to this online community - that's what guides their posting. A bit of heated exchange isn't necessarily 'trolling'.

Who was that?

There was also Lorna Linley.........!

http://forums.abrsm.org/index.php?showtopi...hl=lorna+linley

I invented a better one which draws clefs time signatures and key signatures as well.

My God, that is truly spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I invented the predecessor - the four-nib stave pen

And I'm a pianist extraordinaire.......... so I was told this morning.

haha the best sentence from that is...

"I have not taken any music exams before but I'm sure I am good enough. I have a very beautiful voice. "


LOL

Please please take me forward to 2008 in your time machine as I'm having an awful year!

Lorna whoever/whereever you are hav e to confess you made me laugh too!

Well I never thought she'd be photographed naked!!

I'd love to have hair like that! I really do have a five-nibbed pen but I didn't invent it. I lied about that!

What is that smilie doing to that penguin??

Nice friendly cuggles!

Looks a bit TOO friendly, to me.

Haha. I found it when I was looking for a troll picture...

Meerkat you sweetie, At last I feel understood! I think MrB and I will inevitably end up doing a bit of point-scoring, but as you've pointed out thats different from trolling.

On an online community like this you'll always get things like this, normally from people who care deeply about their point of view. Treat its as a back-handed compliment MrB.

I believe it is possible from someone to troll even if they are not self-aware enough to understand that is how their behaviour is being perceived. Whether or not that is back-handed or cack-handed, I don't know.

Nope, sorry Mr B, but I have to disagree. Trolling is all about intention. Here's a pretty good wiki article on the subject - look at the section entitled 'intent'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

The term comes from angling - it's meaning is similar to 'baiting'.

So how does one categorise the behaviour I described previously? Irritating?

I think it's very subjective - what may be irritating to one person may be entertaining to someone else, boring to another etc .... Take the Einaudi discussion - and no I'm not being controversial. I didn't know Einaudi before that discussion cropped up. Once people started going on about him, I looked him up to find out more about him. I also discovered that I'd just missed a concert of his at the Bridgewater Hall two or three weeks earlier - if the conversation had cropped up then, I would have gone to the concert just to see what it was all about.

So although that thread was controversial and some found it irritating, boring or whatever, it also served a useful musical purpose, at least as far as I was concerned.

As far as this thread is concerned, I agree with what meerkat has said - I think it's the intent that defines trolling, and it's never occurred to me that jod's posts might be classed as trolling