QUOTE(Celeste @ Jan 8 2010, 09:28 PM)
I think it's something about the point at which a baby can identify itself in the mirror, *before* it can put a word to it. So, it's seeing 'me' but doesn't know what 'me' is and doesn't associate it with what it's seeing... if that makes any sense!
Oooh ok, actually now you mention it, that does make sense... So that's why it's like an intermediate stage before language acquisition... Thank you!
But then, I'm confused because the way I understood it, the Real (the impossible to verbalise world of need/instinct etc) was traumatic when it infringed on the Symbolic Order (the world of social rules etc after language acquisition), so even though the Real is always there, you can't be conscious of the two at the same time... kind of... but then this seems like an intermediate stage between the two when you are conscious of both worlds?! SO confused, you wouldn't think I'd been reading this stuff all holiday.
Lottie - what's wrong with a Masters in English? I plan to do one too, eventually.
I haven't read any Derrida - he's the deconstruction one, right? So many people have told me I must read some though, so I'll have to soon. Sounds interesting.
Though maybe then I will actually understand this stuff.