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I realised how entrenched my phobia was when I knew that not only would I never in a million years be able to put my fingers on or anywhere near those strings, but also wouldn't read the article in case I accidentally saw a picture. Such a wimp 
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I did however hear them being played this morning on the radio and was impressed at the quality of sound. (And the stoicism of the player!)
. I did however hear them being played this morning on the radio and was impressed at the quality of sound. (And the stoicism of the player!)
QUOTE(inigo @ Mar 5 2012, 12:32 PM) 
I realised how entrenched my phobia was when I knew that not only would I never in a million years be able to put my fingers on or anywhere near those strings, but also wouldn't read the article in case I accidentally saw a picture. Such a wimp
. I did however hear them being played this morning on the radio and was impressed at the quality of sound. (And the stoicism of the player!)
Me too, Inigo. I didn't even listen to it on the radio.
And you would need to dress in this when you play. Lovely colour - I wonder if the strings are the same?
QUOTE(inigo @ Mar 5 2012, 12:32 PM)
I realised how entrenched my phobia was when I knew that not only would I never in a million years be able to put my fingers on or anywhere near those strings, but also wouldn't read the article in case I accidentally saw a picture. Such a wimp
. I did however hear them being played this morning on the radio and was impressed at the quality of sound. (And the stoicism of the player!)
I'm with you there!
Wouldn't they be rather sticky?
QUOTE(rachelviolin @ Mar 5 2012, 11:41 AM)
Katyjay's said it elsewhere, but the spider picture here is pretty graphic, and I know if I were an arachnopobe, I'd be frightened out of my wits!!!
I would like to read about it but I (pathetically) can't click on a page that might have a picture on it 
Would someone who can cope with the picture copy and paste the story here without it, please?
A Japanese researcher has used thousands of strands of spider silk to spin a set of violin strings.
The strings are said to have a "soft and profound timbre" relative to traditional gut or steel strings.
That may arise from the way the strings are twisted, resulting in a "packing structure" that leaves practically no space between any of the strands.
The strings will be described in a forthcoming edition of the journal Physical Review Letters.
Shigeyoshi Osaki of Japan's Nara Medical University has been interested in the mechanical properties of spider silk for a number of years.
In particular, he has studied the "dragline" silk that spiders dangle from, quantifying its strength in a 2007 paper in Polymer Journal.
Dr Osaki has perfected methods of obtaining large quantities of this dragline silk from captive-bred spiders and has now turned his attention to the applications of the remarkable material.
"Bowed string instruments such as the violin have been the subject of many scientific studies," he writes.
"However, not all of the details have been clarified, as most players have been interested in the violin body rather than the properties of the bow or strings."
Dr Osaki used 300 female Nephila maculata spiders - one of the species of "golden orb-weavers" renowned for their complex webs - to provide the dragline silk.
For each string, Dr Osaki twisted between 3,000 and 5,000 individual strands of silk in one direction to form a bundle. The strings were then prepared from three of these bundles twisted together in the opposite direction.
He then set about measuring their tensile strength - a critical factor for violinists wishing to avoid breaking a string in the midst of a concerto.
The spider-silk strings withstood less tension before breaking than a traditional but rarely used gut string, but more than an aluminium-coated, nylon-core string.
A closer study using an electron microscope showed that, while the strings themselves were perfectly round, in cross-section the strands had been compressed into a range of different shapes that all fit snugly together, leaving no space between them.
Dr Osaki suggests that it is this feature of the strings that lends them their strength and, crucially, their unique tone.
"Several professional violinists reported that spider strings... generated a preferable timbre, being able to create a new music," he wrote.
"The violin strings are a novel practical use for spider silk as a kind of high value-added product, and offer a distinctive type of timbre for both violin players and music lovers worldwide."
The strings are said to have a "soft and profound timbre" relative to traditional gut or steel strings.
That may arise from the way the strings are twisted, resulting in a "packing structure" that leaves practically no space between any of the strands.
The strings will be described in a forthcoming edition of the journal Physical Review Letters.
Shigeyoshi Osaki of Japan's Nara Medical University has been interested in the mechanical properties of spider silk for a number of years.
In particular, he has studied the "dragline" silk that spiders dangle from, quantifying its strength in a 2007 paper in Polymer Journal.
Dr Osaki has perfected methods of obtaining large quantities of this dragline silk from captive-bred spiders and has now turned his attention to the applications of the remarkable material.
"Bowed string instruments such as the violin have been the subject of many scientific studies," he writes.
"However, not all of the details have been clarified, as most players have been interested in the violin body rather than the properties of the bow or strings."
Dr Osaki used 300 female Nephila maculata spiders - one of the species of "golden orb-weavers" renowned for their complex webs - to provide the dragline silk.
For each string, Dr Osaki twisted between 3,000 and 5,000 individual strands of silk in one direction to form a bundle. The strings were then prepared from three of these bundles twisted together in the opposite direction.
He then set about measuring their tensile strength - a critical factor for violinists wishing to avoid breaking a string in the midst of a concerto.
The spider-silk strings withstood less tension before breaking than a traditional but rarely used gut string, but more than an aluminium-coated, nylon-core string.
A closer study using an electron microscope showed that, while the strings themselves were perfectly round, in cross-section the strands had been compressed into a range of different shapes that all fit snugly together, leaving no space between them.
Dr Osaki suggests that it is this feature of the strings that lends them their strength and, crucially, their unique tone.
"Several professional violinists reported that spider strings... generated a preferable timbre, being able to create a new music," he wrote.
"The violin strings are a novel practical use for spider silk as a kind of high value-added product, and offer a distinctive type of timbre for both violin players and music lovers worldwide."
Thanks, Muzikalbadger 
QUOTE(katyjay @ Mar 5 2012, 08:36 PM)
Thanks, Muzikalbadger
No problem
QUOTE(barry-clari @ Mar 5 2012, 06:27 PM)
QUOTE(rachelviolin @ Mar 5 2012, 11:41 AM)
Katyjay's said it elsewhere, but the spider picture here is pretty graphic, and I know if I were an arachnopobe, I'd be frightened out of my wits!!!
I thought that spider was quite cute. I really like spiders.
This post doesn't have any spidy pictures! http://www.geekosystem.com/spider-silk-may...violin-strings/
QUOTE(katyjay @ Mar 5 2012, 08:36 PM)
Thanks, Muzikalbadger
Yes, thank you. I'm actually fascinated by webs - from a distance - we get beautiful ones on our hedge in the morning lit up by dew or frost and the thought of something so creative being used to create music appeals to my romantic side, and I should love spiders as they are clever and useful, and I've tried so hard..but...
Ooohh..imagine a mass escape at a spider farm..eeeuuwwww..
QUOTE(karslima @ Mar 5 2012, 08:58 PM)
QUOTE(barry-clari @ Mar 5 2012, 06:27 PM)
QUOTE(rachelviolin @ Mar 5 2012, 11:41 AM)
Katyjay's said it elsewhere, but the spider picture here is pretty graphic, and I know if I were an arachnopobe, I'd be frightened out of my wits!!!
I thought that spider was quite cute. I really like spiders.
Have edited the original post with a warning! I wouldn't want a pet tarantula but I do quite like garden spiders. Just as well considering the amount we have here.
QUOTE(Seryph @ Mar 5 2012, 08:59 PM)
This post doesn't have any spidy pictures! http://www.geekosystem.com/spider-silk-may...violin-strings/
Hmmmm... that can't be a full size violin surely. Are these violin strings therefore not full size?
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