It does come down to goals scored - West Brom have scored 36 goals (35 had they not equalised), then Wolves 27, and Wigan also 27.

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What's after goals scored in that case? Wolves and Wigan still need separating in our hypothetical scenario?

I think I may have got Wolves and Wigan the wrong way round. They would both have conceded the same number of goals (Wolves have conceded the same number of goals at home as Wigan have away from home and vice versa ), so then it comes down to their head-to-head record, and Wigan have already done the double over Wolves. So unless I've missed something out, I think Wigan would've been 18th...

EDIT: I've solved the conundrum now. Wolves have won 7 games. Wigan have only won 5.

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Lets hope that it isn't so close come the end of the season - it would be absolutely gutting to be the team that went down by such a small margin.

I can imagine on the last day of the season the headline will be, "The Battle of the Ws. Only one can stay up Who will it be?". Sadly, I think Blackpool may ruin that...

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I'd like Blackpool to stay up.

So do I. I just hope they don't go the same way Burnley and Hull have...

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Hull stayed up their first year - just...

So would I : I do have a feeling they'll have a second wind, though, and stay up

If they can win at Wolves next weekend, then they've got a really good chance.

Before that they've got their game in hand at home to Spurs on Tuesday. Who knows what will happen...

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Spurs will win 3-1 and put more pressure on Chelski to finish in the top 4, come on you Spurs

I have a feeling Chelsea will implode quite happily without help from Spurs or anyone else

I quite liked two particular quotes the managers said after the Orient-Arsenal game last night:

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger after being told Jonathan Tehoue, the goalscorer, came from the French fourth division: "He's a French player that I didn't know so that is quite surprising, but he scored a great goal. No, I don't know him. I saw him when he came on, I have never heard of him before.".

Orient boss Russel Slade about overcoming Arsenal in the replay, "It'll be like trying to jump Becher's Brook, except without a horse".



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I wish the BBC would learn that we are Middlesbrough and not Barnsley and that our goalkeeper is therefore Jason Steele and not Luke Steele. What on earth will they do when we play each other...?

Get confused?

They seem to be confused enough without having both goalkeepers on the same pitch. Can you imagine what the match commentary will be like?

The FA are going to investitgate Millwall. I imagine they won't do much though as they're a London club.

I can imagine... "Luke Steele has scored a last minute equaliser for Boro, heading past Luke Steele in the Barns... oh hang on that doesn't sound right"

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I'd be a bit concerned if Jason Steele headed a goal past the Barnsley keeper, mind. We need our goalkeeper to play in goal.

Adam Federici scored for Reading a couple of seasons ago against Cardiff

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Not from a header, though, surely?

No it wasn't. Close range shot.

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What was your goalie doing at that end of the pitch? You'd have been screwed if they'd counter-attacked.

We were 1-0 down, having just conceded a goal in the 89th minute, then in the sixth minute of injury time, Federici came forward and scored! It was the last kick of the game, so we had nothing to lose.

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I remember in the 80s the BBC getting (understandably) confused between Gary Stevens of Everton, Gary Stevens of Tottenham and Trevor Steven, who were all in the England squad at the same time. The commentary went something like this: "Everton's Gary Stevens passes the ball to Tottenham's Gary Stevens".

Plymouth Argyle to lose 10 points...

There are quite a few Paul Robinsons these days (there's one at Blackburn and one at Bolton).That's going to put them bottom of the table, 8 points from safety. They look certain to go down now barring a Leyton Orient-esque run of form...

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Can't see it somehow : I don't think they're good enough. I fear that's one relegation spot more or less sewn up...

1 win in 9. No points in their last 5 games. Trip to Brighton tomorrow evening. Doesn't look good...

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West Ham are thumping Burnley...

No Cupset tonight then...

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Just a hammering...

More proof that teams managed by Avram Grant seem to like cup competitions...

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And the relegation zone.

If you had a choice between winning a cup and staying in your current division, which would you chose?

Tough choice. Staying up is very important, probably first priority. Having a good cup run is a bonus.

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I think I would probably go for staying up as well, unless it was something really big like the Champions League or UEFA cup - but then a cup win would get you into Europe for the following year and would get you money, but would it be more than you'd lose through relegation?

Burnley are out, which means that Reading and Leyton Orient are the only two non Premier League teams left in the FA Cup. Who would have thought it?

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A hammering from the Hammers. Like the pun

I didn't see that pun initially. A little bit slow there...

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I thought it was a bit unlike you.

You can say that again...

Reading play Millwall tonight...

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just to add to this, im a wolves fan. i dont think i'll be in the premier much longer haha

I like Wolves - they play in a similar style Reading did when they were in the Premier League. Wolves have had some good wins against the top teams, but they need to start beating the teams around them if they are to stay up.

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i doubt we'll stay up CE, we didnt even beat albion >:( we just gave up at the end!!

You know what I think of them.

Perhaps we'll have tired them and the fans out for you from Saturday.

We have the ability to drop down to 21st today without even kicking a ball.

Either that or we'll draw again...

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When did Walter Smith part company with Rangers?

I believe that Walter Smith is retiring at the end of the season and Ally McCoist will take over

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Your home shirts are however quite a nice colour, looking on the bright side

I've just seen a headline that says he's been appointed as Ranger's manager.

*goes to read article as well as headline*


That will teach me not to read headlines on their own.

Sheff Utd already 2-0 up over Scunthorpe in a relegation six-pointer...

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