adagiok5
Nov 3 2005, 11:17 PM
Hello, Can anyone help me? I am about to teach one of my pupils Carousel from the Spectrum book. I am not sure about how to change from 6/8 to 4/8. When changing to 4/8 do you keep the quavers as the beat ie count 123456 then 1234 or when you play in 4/8 do you or do you keep the 4/8 as to crotchets in a bar for example count 12 in 4/8 as you do in 6/8. Hope someone can help with this thanks in anticipation
jess_666
Nov 4 2005, 04:21 PM
QUOTE(adagiok5 @ Nov 3 2005, 11:17 PM)
Hello, Can anyone help me? I am about to teach one of my pupils Carousel from the Spectrum book. I am not sure about how to change from 6/8 to 4/8. When changing to 4/8 do you keep the quavers as the beat ie count 123456 then 1234 or when you play in 4/8 do you or do you keep the 4/8 as to crotchets in a bar for example count 12 in 4/8 as you do in 6/8. Hope someone can help with this thanks in anticipation
I play this piece, and when doing so I dont actually worry about the time signitures, but when i count, its 123456 then 1234.
Hope this helped
PS Aby ideas on how to do the glissando ?
saxlover
Nov 4 2005, 04:24 PM
Urgh...I remember the glissando...it hurts!
jess_666
Nov 4 2005, 04:28 PM
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 4 2005, 04:24 PM)
Urgh...I remember the glissando...it hurts!
i cut my finger open badly and couldnt play it for liek a month... best month of my life
saxlover
Nov 4 2005, 04:28 PM
Ouch!!!
I really didn't like that bit at all
jess_666
Nov 4 2005, 04:33 PM
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 4 2005, 04:28 PM)
Ouch!!!
I really didn't like that bit at all
the bit before it was the worst !!
saxlover
Nov 4 2005, 04:34 PM
Oh yeah, I couldn't coordinate my fingers to move at the same time on those different notes...I'm so glad I gave up!
AnotherPianist
Nov 4 2005, 05:38 PM
Yes as people have said, when changing time signatures keep the speed of the quavers the same and just count to four instead of six. We have the evil (but very good for you) Paul Harris 'Improve Your Sightreading' books to thank for knowing that

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I haven't played this piece but one thing that I would consider is that even though counting 123456 and then 1234 is mathematicaly accurate the feel of the beat should be considered too i.e. going from a compound duple time to a simple quadruple time signature. I would count this as 123 456 1 2 3 4 with an emphasis as the following
1-2-3 4 -5-6 1-2- 3 - 4
Gae
shelton
Nov 5 2005, 09:10 PM
When I took my grade 7 exam in the Spring, I did this piece and I counted:
123123 1234
for the change from 6/8 to 4/8.
I think whatever works best for you is the key.
Good luck. I actually chose this piece for the gliss at the end. Make sure you use the soft part of your finger for the gliss otherwise you will get in all kinds of trouble.
Shelton
saxlover
Nov 5 2005, 11:16 PM
Did you not hurt yourself doing the glissando, shelton?
Katet
Nov 5 2005, 11:23 PM
Im playing this piece, i always count 123 123 12 12 as quavers for some reason! I cannot coordinate my fingers for the last few bars either! I cant rember what my teacher suggested for the gliss!!
saxlover
Nov 5 2005, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(Katet @ Nov 5 2005, 11:23 PM)
I cant rember what my teacher suggested for the gliss!!
Take a deep breath, put a hockey goalkeepers glove on, and hope
Katet
Nov 5 2005, 11:30 PM
Lol, sounds about right! Not really enough time in between tho!
shelton
Nov 6 2005, 01:12 PM
QUOTE
Did you not hurt yourself doing the glissando, shelton?
I don't see how you can hurt yourself if you use the soft side of your finger rather than the nail side. I had no problems.
Shelton
jess_666
Nov 6 2005, 05:30 PM
QUOTE(saxlover @ Nov 5 2005, 11:27 PM)
QUOTE(Katet @ Nov 5 2005, 11:23 PM)
I cant rember what my teacher suggested for the gliss!!
Take a deep breath, put a hockey goalkeepers glove on, and hope

ROFL!!!! lol, ill try that!! and grrr to coordination.
saxlover
Nov 6 2005, 05:33 PM

Good idea I thought!
adagiok5
Nov 7 2005, 10:14 PM
Thank you so everyone who replied to my query regarding the time in Carousel your comments and suggestions have been most helpful.
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