QUOTE(Pixie*Porsche @ May 24 2012, 03:28 PM)
That sounds absolutely ridiculous to me SB
Seems like the rumours about pass / fail quotas may actually have been true. Would you have passed your son?
Yes I would. I am not saying it was a perfect drive, (mostly the effects of nerves), but it was perfectly safe throughout. Clutch and gear control was also good throughout, which not easy in our Mk 5 Astra, whose clutch I feel would be better suited to a F1 car!
I don't particularly like being a passenger in any car unless I am 100% confident in the driver, and I must say I have no worries when our son is driving.
Oddly enough, a friend of ours who works for a bus company came with us recently to a recital at Durham Cathedral (when our son was driving.) He said he was impressed, and wished that their drivers paid as much attention to the road!
QUOTE(louise1712 @ May 24 2012, 03:55 PM)
That is indeed what the IAM look for when assessing Advanced Driving Tests, but to me (a Senior Observer and Final Assessor with the IAM) it is a basic skill and ridiculous that this is not taught at learner level.
I was a volunteer instructor at our local IAM centre for a while (admittedly some twenty years ago), so I feel I have some experience in this matter. However, I searched out my Advanced Driving manual when I got home, and looked up road positing. (I don't think there is any such section in the Highway Code). Sure enough it said exactly what I thought; that you should always position your vehicle so that you have the best possible viewpoint, allowing you to see and be seen. This is especially important when riding a motorcycle, which I happned to take my first advanced test on. I just wish I had taken the book with me; not that it would have made any difference.
Talking to the examiner, he said that if you drive close to the white line you might meet someone coming the other way doing the same thing, (except you would see them), or that somebody might pull out of a turning on your right, (but again you would see them).
He quoted one particular instance when our son had moved out to the centre of the road (and slowed down) when passing a turning on our nearside where visibility is notoriously bad for turning traffic. There was nothing coming the other way, and there were no turnings on the right, so what was the problem?
But why would hazards only come from your offside? What happens if someone pulls out of a side turning on your nearside (which seems to be more common), if a child runs out from between two cars or a gateway, or if somebody flings a car door open? Does it not make sense to give yourself maximum opportunity to identify such hazards in good time, and to be seen by others?
I should make it clear that I am not angry because our son failed his test; that is just bad luck and he will soon get over it; but I am angry that he failed because he was following methods that, to my knowledge have been taught by the IAM and Police Driving Instructors for at least 30 years, and that makes no sense to me at all.
In effect, this means that he will now have to learn to drive in a less-safe way than advocated by the IAM in order to pass his driving test!
Indeed, given our experience today, I do wonder whether a Senior Observer and Final Assessor with the IAM such as Louise, or even a Class 1 Police Driving Instructor would pass the DSA driving test as it is today?