QUOTE(ad_libitum @ Mar 10 2008, 09:20 PM)

QUOTE(lucky045 @ Mar 10 2008, 05:16 PM)

Another boy in the class said "what, so I got a U just because I'm not a hairy man-hating lesbian?!" and Mr C smiled at him, and nodded.
No, he got a U for writing extremely poorly... and it would have had to be pretty bad at that to come away with such a grade (or "ungrade" as the case may be!).
QUOTE(lucky045 @ Mar 10 2008, 05:16 PM)

including "really, people with a decent grasp of English couldn't do well in this... "
Why, was it written in German?!! Isn't an English exam supposed to
test your grasp of English? I'd be complaining to the highest authority about this incident. It's just intolerable... make a scene!
QUOTE(lucky045 @ Mar 10 2008, 05:16 PM)

Also, feminism isn't man-hating! It's a belief in equality for men and women
If you talk about the fact that you feel you should have equality, then you deny it to yourself. If you feel equal to someone, then you are, and you don't need to do a thing to prove it
Can't make a scene, my mum works there - he's her boss... and he's done worse things, specifically to me, which I've reported without it making a blind bit of difference, except that the next day when my mum sent a child to him for punishment (standard "go and see the head of department" thing) he refused to deal with her - though my mum had had little to do with my complaint. In fact I do believe that was the second time he told me that it was my fault the rest of the class (and year) had done badly in that exam originally - I should have helped them, and said it was no wonder I had no friends (I do). And then there was the time he refused to mark my coursework... and oh so many things.
Not that I should rant again.
I take your point about equality... I believe myself equal sure - but what if I believe that everyone else should believe me equal too? For example if I go for a job and don't get it because they decide as a woman I'm too likely to get married and get pregnant and go on maternity leave... If I believe I'm equal it doesn't much help in that situation... but I do know what you mean.
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Mar 10 2008, 09:26 PM)

QUOTE(lucky045 @ Mar 10 2008, 08:58 PM)

Yeah, I've met a few people like that - who keep repeating the same thing over and over again, more and more loudly until you give up? Well, thanks for the compliment, I've never studied the art of arguing, but I always liked debate in English, and we did a bit of philosophy when we had the-best-RE-teacher-in-the-worldtm, and we finished the GCSE syllabus early... She'd studied it at uni I think... it was fun. I'd love to take it some day, I love reading about philosophy, and thinking about it.
You used
reductio ad absurdum the other day, even if you didn't realise it. You seem like the sort of person who likes to be right (no offence intended, unless I'm also offending myself, see my sig

), and one of the nice effects of actually being able to construct and deconstruct arguments is being able to make yours bulletproof whilst systematically breaking down those of your opponents in a purely (de)constructive manner

.
I'm not sure what reductio ad absurdum is... I looked it up and found lots of mathematical proofs... I think I almost understand it, but would you be able to give me a quick example? Yes, of course, well I always think I'm right (I don't think that's arrogant... surely everyone does, or else they wouldn't have opinions) so I just try to prove/show my rightness logically. I would certainly like to learn more though!
Rosemary - yes I totally agree with you - I helped out last year in a French class and the children had their vocab books open, at the page with all the phrases they needed - and they still preferred to put their hands up and ask me to looking down and reading the page in front of them!
Miss Ross

BBTOTW I'm sorry you're so tired - get some sleep tonight and good luck in your interview! Think how great you'll feel when it's done!