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benjaminja
Hi

I quite like the idea of doing grade 8 Practical Musicianship. Has anyone else done it (or any of the other grades, for that matter) and what did you think of it?

Cheers smile.gif
jo.clarinet
There have been quite a few threads on Practical Musicianship - have a search and you'll probably come up with lots of useful info! smile.gif
benjaminja
QUOTE(jo.clarinet @ Dec 3 2005, 08:04 PM) *

There have been quite a few threads on Practical Musicianship - have a search and you'll probably come up with lots of useful info! smile.gif


Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to find any... sad.gif

Actually, have just found some stuff. Thanks!
YetAnotherPianist
Have a look at these two smile.gif

http://forums.abrsm.org/index.php?showtopic=4834

http://forums.abrsm.org/index.php?showtopic=8511

The search function has gone a bit haywire at the moment....
mwl1
If you're still looking on this thread, I did grade 5 2 weeks ago and am still waiting for the results. It teaches many useful skills, although the exam is something of a plunge into the unknown. wink.gif
benjaminja
QUOTE(mwl1 @ Dec 4 2005, 10:44 AM) *

If you're still looking on this thread, I did grade 5 2 weeks ago and am still waiting for the results. It teaches many useful skills, although the exam is something of a plunge into the unknown. wink.gif


Ooh, good luck for your results! Did you enjoy the exam at all?
mwl1
QUOTE(benjaminja @ Dec 4 2005, 05:24 PM) *

QUOTE(mwl1 @ Dec 4 2005, 10:44 AM) *

If you're still looking on this thread, I did grade 5 2 weeks ago and am still waiting for the results. It teaches many useful skills, although the exam is something of a plunge into the unknown. wink.gif


Ooh, good luck for your results! Did you enjoy the exam at all?


Thanks!

I did enjoy the exam, and learnt a lot from it. I recommend it! However it was a lot of work. It suits me better than theory, which I did it instead of. I'm sure I'll have passed..... biggrin.gif
mwl1
I did pass! I got a merit! A B- in fact, and so I'm very happy!
sarah-flute
Well done!

Are there any books etc for the practical musicianship? I'd be interested to have a go but don't have a clue where to start with preparation....
mwl1
Thanks! smile.gif

There are some books, yes. Which grade are you interested in? The best ones are Musicianship in Practice, Book I, Grades 1-3, Musicianship in Practice, Book II, Grades 4&5, and Musicianship in Practice, Book III, Grades 6-8 (All ABRSM publishing). These books explain what is required in each test and have many examples for you to practise with. Also, you may like to have a look at Practical Musicianship Specimen Tests, Grades 1-5 and Practical Musicianship, Specimen Tests, Grades 6-8. These are more like practise papers - pure practise material. There are less examples in those. Have a look at the 'Muscianship in Practise' books; they're what I used.

Hope this helps!



sarah-flute
QUOTE(mwl1 @ Jan 21 2006, 08:20 PM) *

Thanks! smile.gif

There are some books, yes. Which grade are you interested in? The best ones are Musicianship in Practice, Book I, Grades 1-3, Musicianship in Practice, Book II, Grades 4&5, and Musicianship in Practice, Book III, Grades 6-8 (All ABRSM publishing). These books explain what is required in each test and have many examples for you to practise with. Also, you may like to have a look at Practical Musicianship Specimen Tests, Grades 1-5 and Practical Musicianship, Specimen Tests, Grades 6-8. These are more like practise papers - pure practise material. There are less examples in those. Have a look at the 'Muscianship in Practise' books; they're what I used.

Hope this helps!

Ahhh thanks - yes, it's useful to know that people have found things useful (if that makes sense! ohmy.gif smile.gif) I'll have to have a look...
mwl1
Good luck!
benjaminja
Well done! I have entered for the exam this term so will look for those books too!
sbhoa
The musicianship in Practice books are ok but they are not really as clear about how the tests will be administered in an exam as the aural training in practice books which give official wording.
mwl1
Are they not just for aural tests on instrumental exams?
sbhoa
QUOTE(mwl1 @ Jan 23 2006, 07:40 PM) *

Are they not just for aural tests on instrumental exams?


The Aural training in practice books are.
The musicianship in Practice books are for Pratical Musicianship exams.
mwl1
That's what I thought. So while I agree that the 'aural training in practise' books may be better, as they give official wording, they cannot be used for practical musicianship exams. I think the 'Musicianship in practise' books are really the only books that can be used for practical musicianship. I found them useful anyway! smile.gif
sbhoa
QUOTE(mwl1 @ Jan 24 2006, 08:03 PM) *

That's what I thought. So while I agree that the 'aural training in practise' books may be better, as they give official wording, they cannot be used for practical musicianship exams. I think the 'Musicianship in practise' books are really the only books that can be used for practical musicianship. I found them useful anyway! smile.gif


Yes, but what I mean is that they leave you a bit in the dark about how it will all work in the exam.
mumoftwo
My son is entered for grade 5 PM this term. Can anybody who has done this exam give him any pointers. What do they expect when testing improvisation or transposition? Although he has worked through the syllabus both he and his tutor have little idea of expectation. His tutor would like to sit in on the exam to see what exactly happens.
mwl1
I did grade 5 PM last term. Is he doing it as an alternative to theory? My teacher didn't know what to expect, having never entered anyone for it before. I didn't actually do the transposition test, I did the singing a lower part one instead. Has he decided that that is the test he wants to do?

As for the improvisation test, you are expected to freely improvise a tune. You will be given a short 'motif' which you then carry on freely for about 45 seconds. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.
mumoftwo
QUOTE(mwl1 @ Jan 29 2006, 05:20 PM) *

I did grade 5 PM last term. Is he doing it as an alternative to theory? My teacher didn't know what to expect, having never entered anyone for it before. I didn't actually do the transposition test, I did the singing a lower part one instead. Has he decided that that is the test he wants to do?

As for the improvisation test, you are expected to freely improvise a tune. You will be given a short 'motif' which you then carry on freely for about 45 seconds. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.




Yes, he is doing PM as an alternative He is not so hot with pen and paper although he appreciates that there may be a need at some point to do his theory. As for choices, I was unaware, however he must have made his choice of transposition, because of his voice breaking at the moment. Do you think he chose the harder option? How did you do in your grade? I think he has covered most aspects and practises what he can, but he is not sure what they will assess. On improvisation, do they expect something wonderful or will the pass be awarded on just getting it in the right key, have you any ideas about this, because although my son seems to be confident in his improvisation, it is not yet very exciting to hear!
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