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Andy1
Can anyone tell me what grade idylle is from suite de trois morceux? i know allegretto is grade 6.
Cheers
Andy-piano-flute
It's classified as grade 7 in the Edexecel list I think. Andante-in-C posted a link to the edexecel pdf that gives the grades of pieces- edexcell
nicki_flute
About 7.
IrisH - LoonY
On that link, there WAS Paganini on Grade 8 Violin! And the Schumann Fantasiestucke Op.73 for clarinet on the Grade 6/7 syllabus...WHAT THE HECK WERE THEY DOING ON THE SYLLABUS!

IrisH - LoonY
saxlover
Erm, they were chosen to be on them? blink.gif
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(saxlover @ Dec 25 2005, 04:51 PM) *

Erm, they were chosen to be on them? blink.gif


OK maybe not so much the Paganini, but the Schumann....dry.gif Violinists have more than enough repertoire without having clarinet originals being transcribed for them. Silly if you ask me.

IrisH - LoonY
saxlover
But the syllabus people didn't ask you did they. There is tons of music being transcribed. Does it really matter? No.
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(saxlover @ Dec 25 2005, 05:19 PM) *

But the syllabus people didn't ask you did they. There is tons of music being transcribed. Does it really matter? No.


Now now.

On the topic of Godard, I wonder what the Valse from his suite is....it looks bloomin' hard for a flautist! Especially with such a fast tempo!

IrisH - LoonY
saxlover
*sighs*
Kflute
I'd say, in order of movements, probably, grade 6, grade 6/7, and at least 8 for the valse if you want to do it justice
nicki_flute
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Dec 25 2005, 05:20 PM) *

QUOTE(saxlover @ Dec 25 2005, 05:19 PM) *

But the syllabus people didn't ask you did they. There is tons of music being transcribed. Does it really matter? No.


Now now.

On the topic of Godard, I wonder what the Valse from his suite is....it looks bloomin' hard for a flautist! Especially with such a fast tempo!

IrisH - LoonY

On the Edexcel piece guide to what grades pieces are, the Godard 3 is 8. I thought it looked awful, but since I have been working at it it isn't too bad
dacapo
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Dec 25 2005, 05:16 PM) *

QUOTE(saxlover @ Dec 25 2005, 04:51 PM) *

Erm, they were chosen to be on them? blink.gif


OK maybe not so much the Paganini, but the Schumann....dry.gif Violinists have more than enough repertoire without having clarinet originals being transcribed for them. Silly if you ask me.

IrisH - LoonY

QUOTE(saxlover @ Dec 25 2005, 05:19 PM) *

But the syllabus people didn't ask you did they. There is tons of music being transcribed. Does it really matter? No.

I'm absolutely with IL on this one. I've been disgusted for years at the number of arrangements and transcriptions in exam syllabuses for instruments which have rich original repertoires. Violin is a prime example. For many young players, probably especially those having rather short group lessons in schools and being entered for exams, music from an exam syllabus becomes the total range of music that they learn. I want it all to be of a high musical standard and composed for the instrument they are playing by someone who understood that instrument.

That's quite apart from the fact that I don't actually like the Schumann and my heart sinks when I'm asked to accompany them on any instrument! As an accompanist of course it's usually part of the job to conceal my feelings about the music I'm playing. Being a performing musician is part of the acting profession. smile.gif
andante_in_c
QUOTE(dacapo @ Dec 26 2005, 12:04 PM) *

That's quite apart from the fact that I don't actually like the Schumann and my heart sinks when I'm asked to accompany them on any instrument! As an accompanist of course it's usually part of the job to conceal my feelings about the music I'm playing. Being a performing musician is part of the acting profession. smile.gif


I agree with that! I have to be the same when I'm teaching a piece that I dislike. It may be the yukkiest piece on earth, but the student is going to play it as well as possible to the best of her ability (all mine are female at the moment, no sexism intended). If the student wants to learn it, then we'll learn it well. smile.gif
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(dacapo @ Dec 26 2005, 12:04 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Dec 25 2005, 05:16 PM) *

QUOTE(saxlover @ Dec 25 2005, 04:51 PM) *

Erm, they were chosen to be on them? blink.gif


OK maybe not so much the Paganini, but the Schumann....dry.gif Violinists have more than enough repertoire without having clarinet originals being transcribed for them. Silly if you ask me.

IrisH - LoonY

QUOTE(saxlover @ Dec 25 2005, 05:19 PM) *

But the syllabus people didn't ask you did they. There is tons of music being transcribed. Does it really matter? No.

I'm absolutely with IL on this one. I've been disgusted for years at the number of arrangements and transcriptions in exam syllabuses for instruments which have rich original repertoires. Violin is a prime example. For many young players, probably especially those having rather short group lessons in schools and being entered for exams, music from an exam syllabus becomes the total range of music that they learn. I want it all to be of a high musical standard and composed for the instrument they are playing by someone who understood that instrument.

That's quite apart from the fact that I don't actually like the Schumann and my heart sinks when I'm asked to accompany them on any instrument! As an accompanist of course it's usually part of the job to conceal my feelings about the music I'm playing. Being a performing musician is part of the acting profession. smile.gif


I'm glad someone agrees.

Violinists in particular have such a vast repertoire! Why should they be playing music originally written for instruments with a less wider repertoire, e.g. the Clarinet!

Now I actually enjoy the Schumann, particularly the first of the Op.73, especially when a cellist plays it (this was another version Schumann had written) but for a violinist....dry.gif

His Adagio and Allegro in A flat Op.70 suffers from the same problem. Intended for Horn and Piano but Peters has an edition with parts for
i) French Horn
ii) Cello
iii) Viola
iv) Violin

Madness!!!

IrisH - LoonY
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