ben_walker446
Dec 13 2005, 04:43 PM
Hello Everybody. Its me again. If there are any oboists out there or anyone who has an opinion then answer me a question. Do you think you can teach yourself the oboe sufficiently.
The Oboemeister
Dec 13 2005, 05:28 PM
No, it wouldn't work at all! There's no point anyway, cos if you're going to spend so much on an instrument, you should make it one you're going to take seriously; you can't spend £800 and then decide that actually you don't want to.
Even then, it takes a fair bit of time to learn to play it properly, even with teaching!
ben_walker446
Dec 13 2005, 05:31 PM
so would you not advise it?
Wat gradeare you and how long have you been played?
The Oboemeister
Dec 13 2005, 05:38 PM
I did grade 7 today (fairly sure I passed but not much more). I've been playing 6 years, but for two of them I was in braces, which really screwed up my playing.
ben_walker446
Dec 13 2005, 05:40 PM
I wasn't neceassarily thinking of startingnow i just thought someday if i decided to take it up will i need lessons. But thank you anyway. I will bear what you said in mind.
Hope you get good results i'm sure you would have passed
Emma C
Dec 13 2005, 05:44 PM
I taught myself oboe for about a year on an old plastic Boosey and Hawkes. I got quite a long way, but came on much better with a teacher. Having decent reeds made a huge difference, and then I got a better instrument. I had lessons for a couple of years, then went back to Uni. I guess I got to about Grade 7 standard in 4 years, though as I was much older when I started (22) I chose not to do exams. Wonder now if I might someday.... I had also played flute (no lessons) before. I think it would be fair to say that you can teach yourself some things, but to have a teacher would be much better. I just couldn't afford it early on. You can get into some bad habits, though I don't seem to remember my teacher pulling his hair out in horror when he took me on.
ben_walker446
Dec 13 2005, 05:46 PM
cool. What grade are you on the flute?
Emma C
Dec 13 2005, 05:48 PM
Taught myself. Loved oboe so much I gave up with the flute after that, though it comes out from time to time... play very badly now!
ben_walker446
Dec 13 2005, 05:49 PM
shame. The flute is a lovely instrument
i_am_a_musicmouse_01
Dec 14 2005, 12:03 AM
2nd ben3
Dec 14 2005, 01:53 PM
QUOTE(ben_walker446 @ Dec 13 2005, 04:43 PM)

Hello Everybody. Its me again. If there are any oboists out there or anyone who has an opinion then answer me a question. Do you think you can teach yourself the oboe sufficiently.
yes you can.
any body can do anything.
I will teach myself the Baroque oboe when I get my reed.
Ben again.
Louigi
Dec 16 2005, 04:13 AM
i did, i taught myself oboe for about 2 month and i rent a oboe then i got a teacher!
An oboist...
Dec 16 2005, 05:33 PM
Not advisable in the long term, but if you can find a spare oboe hanging around (maybe at school, but so few have them...) then by all means give it a go - you would need someone just to point you in the right direction in terms of mouth positioning though.
anacrusis
Dec 20 2005, 12:46 AM
No longer an oboist - but a wind player...
self-taught on recorder for twenty years. Probably got to a standard which might have scraped me a grade 6 with a fair wind. Got a teacher, did grade 7 after 1 year, grade 8 after the next year, on fortnightly lessons. I reckon oboe and recorder each have aspects which make them hard to play well.
Yes, you could teach yourself some things, but for the tricky stuff, it is so much better to have someone listen to you and point you in the right direction when you get a bit stuck.
oboist
Dec 20 2005, 08:40 AM
Personally I wouldn't recommend it - but then I don't recommend anyone teaching themselves any instrument from scratch without some guidance from someone who knows what they're doing.
I compare it to learning any skill. You wouldn't expect to go into hospital for surgery and have a consultant who'd "taught himself" would you?

You probably have to have someone help you a bit to learn to drive initially. So it is with music.
OK - you're not going to kill anyone (unlike an untrained surgeon might) if you teach yourself but you will almost certainly learn to play with quite a few technical faults simply because nobody's walking the journey with you to help correct them when they creep in. I've lost count of the people I've had to steer back onto the straight and narrow who've either tried to teach themselves or been taught by someone who doesn't actually play the oboe (ie a generalist woodwind teacher).
So, if funding is a problem, I strongly advocate a few lessons initially and then take it from there. Getting it right at the start is key - you may well then, if you already know something about music, be more able thereafter to look after yourself.
Have fun anyway - oboe is a great instrument!!
bassmadmatt
Dec 20 2005, 03:37 PM
I've taught myself every instrument I play. It would definitely be possible to teach yourself oboe, but I wouldn't advise it because:
* Oboes are very expensive instruments. A new student model would cost just under a thousand. If you're spending that much money on an instrument, it's best to get some good tuition so you can make the most of it.
* Oboes have a tricky embouchure (or so I've been told). If you want to learn an instrument like oboe, where you need a good technique just to get a sound, then it's best to get a decent teacher so that you can establish firm basic techniques and give yourself a strong foundation to build upon.
Matt
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