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Louisa
unsure.gif Hello, does anyone know how to count double dotted notes?
My teacher happened to mention it briefly after a lesson and I'm not sure if they will come up in grade 8 sightreading.

Maybe someone could tell me how to count a double dotted crotchet?

andante_in_c
Hi Louisa,

I suggest you count the double dotted crotchet in semiquavers. A double dotted crotchet will normally be paired with a semiquaver, so the notes are a ratio of 7 to 1 in length (seven semiquavers for the double dotted crotchet). You could practise playing 7 separate semiquavers of one note, followed by 1 semiquaver of a different note, then mentally tie the 7 semiquavers together which will give you your double dotted crotchet. Hope this helps.
Arthmonster
The first thing to understand is the "maths" of how long a double dotted crotchet lasts. Here goes..... The first dot adds half the value of the original note (i.e. half a beat) and the second dot adds half the value of the first dot (i.e. quarter of a beat). So the whole note is worth 1 beat, plus half, plus quarter - 1 and three quarters of a beat. It is likely therefore to be followed by a semiquaver to make up 2 beats.

The next thing is to work out how it is going to sound - so that you can play it properly! smile.gif

What I suggest to my pupils is that they start off by counting in quavers. In other words if the piece is in 4/4 time, they would count 8 quavers in the bar. So a dotted quaver would take up 3 of the quaver beats. what you would need to do for a double dotted quaver is count 3 and 1/2 quaver beats, so would say out loud, "one, two, three, and" (the "and" being the 1/2 quaver for the double dot). This sounds kind of complicated, but it does work. rolleyes.gif

If you wanted to be even more scientific, you could count semiquavers, the crotchet would get 4 counts, the first dot 2 and the second dot 1, making 7 semiquavers in all. To make this work you will need to slow the music right down. When you've worked it out you can speed up to the correct tempo again.

If you are confident with single dotted notes, another way to work out how to play double dots, is just to hold the double dotted note for slightly longer than you would a single dotted note.

Double dotted notes often crop up in baroque music, so it might be worth hunting some out so you can experiment.

My head hurts now - but I hope this helps you more than it confuses you! Good Luck.
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Alison
A double dotted crotchet is worth 1 and 3/4 crotchets, so would normally be followed by a semiquaver. How to count it depends on the speed and pulse of the piece. Rhythms with double dots can often be thought of as like single dots but much sharper, if that makes sense! But I shouldn't worry too much for your sightreading - just keep the beat steady and (try to) keep everything flowing! Good luck!

Alison
missmusic
a dot is half the length the note it follows so a double dotted crotchet would be a minim wouldnt it?
Louisa
Thanks for the advice everyone!

Your explanation was pretty helpful arthmonster-had to read it a few times though...

I had my exam a few days ago, luckily the dotted crotchets never came up in the sightreading.

Just have to wait for the results now, fingers crossed!
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