Full Version: Text Talk
just thought people might want to voice opinions
I personally can stand VERY little of it. Especially
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Jan 14 2006, 08:51 PM) 
I personally can stand VERY little of it. Especially
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
oh dear
come on homies keep voting...lol!
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Jan 14 2006, 08:51 PM)
I personally can stand VERY little of it. Especially
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
eeeek Chris I'm really sorry about using text talk when on msn! Won't do in future...
Personally i only use some of the milder stuff, because anything else just becomes hard to work out!
QUOTE(sl123451 @ Jan 14 2006, 08:53 PM)
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Jan 14 2006, 08:51 PM)
I personally can stand VERY little of it. Especially
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
oh dear
Someone obviously hasn't been spending enough time reading the dictionary Nicely pointed out Scotty!
The only text talk I generally use is coz, for because. And only on forums or MSN. Otherwise, I hate it!
I personally can stand VERY little of it. Especially
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
oh dear
Someone obviously hasn't been spending enough time reading the dictionary
Nicely pointed out Scotty!
QUOTE(Choddy @ Jan 14 2006, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE(sl123451 @ Jan 14 2006, 08:53 PM)
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Jan 14 2006, 08:51 PM)
I personally can stand VERY little of it. Especially
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
oh dear
Someone obviously hasn't been spending enough time reading the dictionary Nicely pointed out Scotty!
QUOTE(Choddy @ Jan 14 2006, 08:57 PM)
QUOTE(sl123451 @ Jan 14 2006, 08:53 PM)
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Jan 14 2006, 08:51 PM)
I personally can stand VERY little of it. Especially
1) Excessive use of "lol" or any variation of it, especially when it's used to respond to something that ISN'T funny!
2) Use of "kk" instead of "ok"
3) Appaulling terrible spelling of words
4) Poor word structure/grammar e.g. i iz ye fyn thx
oh dear
Someone obviously hasn't been spending enough time reading the dictionary Nicely pointed out Scotty!
Eeek! Sorry! Typo as you can guess...
It only annoys me when it's not in a text message. It's only natural to use text talk when sending a phone text message - I do it myself - but when sending an email or putting a message on these forums, words should be written in full. I'm sure it's laziness half the time.
I use it for MSN and Texting to save time, but it can be annoying, when I'm doin profiles on Vampire Freaks and stuff I like to write properly.
I voted for 'i cant stand it' but of course I meant 'I can't stand it' .
I Wouldn't even use it in a phone message, on the few occasions I have had call to write those (no pun intended) I have included proper punctuation and have written out the message in proper English...
I think the use of text language makes the author look somewhat uneducated...
.I Wouldn't even use it in a phone message, on the few occasions I have had call to write those (no pun intended) I have included proper punctuation and have written out the message in proper English...
I think the use of text language makes the author look somewhat uneducated...
I've just voted can't stand it. I like palin English.As for mobile phones I restrict texting to about 3 words or use voicemail..just ask Noodle.
I voted for 'i cant stand it' but of course I meant 'I can't stand it'.
I Wouldn't even use it in a phone message, on the few occasions I have had call to write those (no pun intended) I have included proper punctuation and have written out the message in proper English...
I think the use of text language makes the author look somewhat uneducated...
I agree.
As for texting.Me too.It took me ages,so decided to use voicemail instead.It's quicker.
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Jan 14 2006, 09:05 PM)
I voted for 'i cant stand it' but of course I meant 'I can't stand it'
.I Wouldn't even use it in a phone message, on the few occasions I have had call to write those (no pun intended) I have included proper punctuation and have written out the message in proper English...
I think the use of text language makes the author look somewhat uneducated...
I agree.
As for texting.Me too.It took me ages,so decided to use voicemail instead.It's quicker.
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Jan 14 2006, 09:05 PM)
I voted for 'i cant stand it' but of course I meant 'I can't stand it'
.I Wouldn't even use it in a phone message, on the few occasions I have had call to write those (no pun intended) I have included proper punctuation and have written out the message in proper English...
I think the use of text language makes the author look somewhat uneducated...
I think there is a stray capital letter in that post somewhere...
Oh, and Semele you spelt plain wrong...
Oh, and musicbox, you spelt doing wrong...
QUOTE(AmandaL @ Jan 14 2006, 09:00 PM)
It only annoys me when it's not in a text message. It's only natural to use text talk when sending a phone text message - I do it myself - but when sending an email or putting a message on these forums, words should be written in full. I'm sure it's laziness half the time.
Completely agree; I also agree with AP that it does make the writer seem somehow uneducated (perhaps unfairly so). I can't stand it, and the most I use is lol. I sometimes resort to text language on text messages, because it's just less letters that way... but for emails, or forums like these, I always use proper spelling and grammar. It's so much easier to read (especially if some people are not native English speakers) and personally it takes much longer for me to type in text talk than in proper English....
QUOTE(Choddy @ Jan 14 2006, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Jan 14 2006, 09:05 PM)
I voted for 'i cant stand it' but of course I meant 'I can't stand it'
.I Wouldn't even use it in a phone message, on the few occasions I have had call to write those (no pun intended) I have included proper punctuation and have written out the message in proper English...
I think the use of text language makes the author look somewhat uneducated...
I think there is a stray capital letter in that post somewhere...
Oh, and Semele you spelt plain wrong...
Oh, and musicbox, you spelt doing wrong...
Who cares? You still understood what I was saying!!!! Plain.I stand e-rected...lol
I personally don't mind it! 
I use the phrase 'lol' only as a sign of respect normally... for example, when someone is talking of something which seems of interest to them, and then there is an awkward silence, I normally resort to using 'Ah, cool.' or 'Lol' if they are presenting something which it would be plausible to laugh at.
I would use certain contractions like 'Brb', 'k' instead of 'ok', and would accept 'lol', but I would never use 'rofl', because that's just going a bit too far! I do think that sometimes it is pointless where it would be equally easy if not easier to type the original word much like 'kk', where 'ok' would be much more acceptable - besides, it is already a contracted form of the word 'Okay'! I don't know, sometimes I can turn it on and off, but I am not a really serious texter.
For example, if I need to do a Hamlet essay, then I can go into really formal and intellectual English (if not really cheesy to please the examiners), but for MSN, I normally just stick to basic English. However, I do have a habit of using hyphens, colons and semi-colons in MSN. I don't normally make (m)any spelling or grammatical errors, as I'm such a perfectionist that I always check what I wrote and see whether I could correct it or not.
~Wobby~
I use the phrase 'lol' only as a sign of respect normally... for example, when someone is talking of something which seems of interest to them, and then there is an awkward silence, I normally resort to using 'Ah, cool.' or 'Lol' if they are presenting something which it would be plausible to laugh at.I would use certain contractions like 'Brb', 'k' instead of 'ok', and would accept 'lol', but I would never use 'rofl', because that's just going a bit too far!
I do think that sometimes it is pointless where it would be equally easy if not easier to type the original word much like 'kk', where 'ok' would be much more acceptable - besides, it is already a contracted form of the word 'Okay'! I don't know, sometimes I can turn it on and off, but I am not a really serious texter.For example, if I need to do a Hamlet essay, then I can go into really formal and intellectual English (if not really cheesy to please the examiners), but for MSN, I normally just stick to basic English. However, I do have a habit of using hyphens, colons and semi-colons in MSN. I don't normally make (m)any spelling or grammatical errors, as I'm such a perfectionist that I always check what I wrote and see whether I could correct it or not.
~Wobby~
That's just reminded me, my english teacher told me that some of the class (top set) had resorted to text talk, although probably without realising in their Castaway essays, or Romeo and Juliet...
As Wobby says, I can turn it on and off, and especially pay attention to it when I'm writing at school. I don't really use it in texts, but MSN is my weak point...
As Wobby says, I can turn it on and off, and especially pay attention to it when I'm writing at school. I don't really use it in texts, but MSN is my weak point...
QUOTE(Oddball @ Jan 14 2006, 09:38 PM)
That's just reminded me, my english teacher told me that some of the class (top set) had resorted to text talk, although probably without realising in their Castaway essays, or Romeo and Juliet...
As Wobby says, I can turn it on and off, and especially pay attention to it when I'm writing at school. I don't really use it in texts, but MSN is my weak point...
Madness
Yes, it is pretty funny!
QUOTE(Wobby @ Jan 14 2006, 09:35 PM)
I personally don't mind it! I use the phrase 'lol' only as a sign of respect normally... for example, when someone is talking of something which seems of interest to them, and then there is an awkward silence, I normally resort to using 'Ah, cool.' or 'Lol' if they are presenting something which it would be plausible to laugh at.
I would use certain contractions like 'Brb', 'k' instead of 'ok', and would accept 'lol', but I would never use 'rofl', because that's just going a bit too far! I do think that sometimes it is pointless where it would be equally easy if not easier to type the original word much like 'kk', where 'ok' would be much more acceptable - besides, it is already a contracted form of the word 'Okay'! I don't know, sometimes I can turn it on and off, but I am not a really serious texter.
For example, if I need to do a Hamlet essay, then I can go into really formal and intellectual English (if not really cheesy to please the examiners), but for MSN, I normally just stick to basic English. However, I do have a habit of using hyphens, colons and semi-colons in MSN. I don't normally makes (m)any spelling or grammatical errors, as I'm such a perfectionist that I always check what I wrote and see whether I could correct it or not. I don't know, what do people think of my English in terms of what I have just said? 
~Wobby~
I use the phrase 'lol' only as a sign of respect normally... for example, when someone is talking of something which seems of interest to them, and then there is an awkward silence, I normally resort to using 'Ah, cool.' or 'Lol' if they are presenting something which it would be plausible to laugh at.I would use certain contractions like 'Brb', 'k' instead of 'ok', and would accept 'lol', but I would never use 'rofl', because that's just going a bit too far!
I do think that sometimes it is pointless where it would be equally easy if not easier to type the original word much like 'kk', where 'ok' would be much more acceptable - besides, it is already a contracted form of the word 'Okay'! I don't know, sometimes I can turn it on and off, but I am not a really serious texter.For example, if I need to do a Hamlet essay, then I can go into really formal and intellectual English (if not really cheesy to please the examiners), but for MSN, I normally just stick to basic English. However, I do have a habit of using hyphens, colons and semi-colons in MSN. I don't normally makes (m)any spelling or grammatical errors, as I'm such a perfectionist that I always check what I wrote and see whether I could correct it or not.
I don't know, what do people think of my English in terms of what I have just said? ~Wobby~
tut tut
QUOTE(Saxophonist @ Jan 14 2006, 09:59 PM)
QUOTE(Wobby @ Jan 14 2006, 09:35 PM)
I personally don't mind it! I use the phrase 'lol' only as a sign of respect normally... for example, when someone is talking of something which seems of interest to them, and then there is an awkward silence, I normally resort to using 'Ah, cool.' or 'Lol' if they are presenting something which it would be plausible to laugh at.
I would use certain contractions like 'Brb', 'k' instead of 'ok', and would accept 'lol', but I would never use 'rofl', because that's just going a bit too far! I do think that sometimes it is pointless where it would be equally easy if not easier to type the original word much like 'kk', where 'ok' would be much more acceptable - besides, it is already a contracted form of the word 'Okay'! I don't know, sometimes I can turn it on and off, but I am not a really serious texter.
For example, if I need to do a Hamlet essay, then I can go into really formal and intellectual English (if not really cheesy to please the examiners), but for MSN, I normally just stick to basic English. However, I do have a habit of using hyphens, colons and semi-colons in MSN. I don't normally makes (m)any spelling or grammatical errors, as I'm such a perfectionist that I always check what I wrote and see whether I could correct it or not. I don't know, what do people think of my English in terms of what I have just said?
~Wobby~
I use the phrase 'lol' only as a sign of respect normally... for example, when someone is talking of something which seems of interest to them, and then there is an awkward silence, I normally resort to using 'Ah, cool.' or 'Lol' if they are presenting something which it would be plausible to laugh at.I would use certain contractions like 'Brb', 'k' instead of 'ok', and would accept 'lol', but I would never use 'rofl', because that's just going a bit too far!
I do think that sometimes it is pointless where it would be equally easy if not easier to type the original word much like 'kk', where 'ok' would be much more acceptable - besides, it is already a contracted form of the word 'Okay'! I don't know, sometimes I can turn it on and off, but I am not a really serious texter.For example, if I need to do a Hamlet essay, then I can go into really formal and intellectual English (if not really cheesy to please the examiners), but for MSN, I normally just stick to basic English. However, I do have a habit of using hyphens, colons and semi-colons in MSN. I don't normally makes (m)any spelling or grammatical errors, as I'm such a perfectionist that I always check what I wrote and see whether I could correct it or not.
I don't know, what do people think of my English in terms of what I have just said? ~Wobby~
tut tut
Dear dear
Look back. I don't see any errors. It's a conspiracy I tell you! (By the way, I accept fragmented sentences for effect.)
~Wobby~
(By the way, I accept fragmented sentences for effect.)~Wobby~
I realise that having been an internet user for more than 10 years, I use many of the standard internet abbreviations. These started long before text talk, having evolved during the days when most people accessed the net through Teletypes at 10-15 characters per second. ROFL is one of those. Others are IIRC, AFAIK, YMMV.
A Google search found me some sites that lacked abbreviations I meet frequently and had many I had never seen. The Wikipedia page at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang
looked much more familiar, and I recommend it.
A Google search found me some sites that lacked abbreviations I meet frequently and had many I had never seen. The Wikipedia page at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang
looked much more familiar, and I recommend it.
I didn't vote either, not having the option I would have chosen....
I'm afraid I didn't know ANY of the abbreviations kenm mentions. Better go onto the link and see what I'm missing.
I'm afraid I didn't know ANY of the abbreviations kenm mentions. Better go onto the link and see what I'm missing.
QUOTE(Semele @ Jan 14 2006, 09:12 PM)
I've just voted can't stand it. I like palin English.As for mobile phones I restrict texting to about 3 words or use voicemail..just ask Noodle.
That's right, Semele!
I use 'text talk' occasionally - but only to send a short message. I just don't think it has a place on forums like this one or in email for that matter.
I hate text-talk!
Car Expert
Car Expert
y do u h8 it???!!!!!!
dont no, just do!
Car xpert
Car xpert
oh!
*join the anti-text club*
*join the anti-text club*
Ok, will do!
Car Expert
Car Expert
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Jan 14 2006, 09:05 PM)
I voted for 'i cant stand it' but of course I meant 'I can't stand it'
.I Wouldn't even use it in a phone message, on the few occasions I have had call to write those (no pun intended) I have included proper punctuation and have written out the message in proper English...
AP, you're a lady after my own heart! Text talk annoys me even more than badly-capitalised polls.
I send one, perhaps two, SMS messages a month. They're always spelt in full, with correct punctuation and grammar. I'm a real "hunt-and-peck" texter, and can never find the character I want, so text messages take ages to write, so I don't send many of them, so I don't get the practice to speed up.
Yaaay - another new member! Welcome Car Xpert, sorry I meant Car Expert!
I don't mind it and I use it. I've never seen half of the slang words on that wikipedia site though.
QUOTE(Semele @ Jan 14 2006, 09:12 PM)
I've just voted can't stand it. I like palin English.
I like Palin English too!
~Wobby~
~Wobby~
QUOTE(Wobby @ Jan 14 2006, 11:38 PM)
QUOTE(Semele @ Jan 14 2006, 09:12 PM)
I've just voted can't stand it. I like palin English.
I like Palin English too!
~Wobby~
~Wobby~
I mis-read that as plain English!
Car Expert
In text messages, they have a point. You have a limit of 150 odd characters, so the phrase "by the way, are you going to school" can be reduced to "btw, r u goin 2 skl" which only uses about 1/2 of the characters. So they have a point if you're trying to fit a lot of information in, or if you are in a hurry.
In MSN conversations (since I can touch-type) it is no quicker to type it out in full or in text-talk, so I normally say the whole thing. I find it most irritating when people write words which aren't even shorter, for instance "kool", "time" or "neway" (technically shorter but only by one letter).
In posts on fora, e-mails or any situation where time and length have no part; it is inexcusable, in my opinion. And yes, I am turning into a pedant
In MSN conversations (since I can touch-type) it is no quicker to type it out in full or in text-talk, so I normally say the whole thing. I find it most irritating when people write words which aren't even shorter, for instance "kool", "time" or "neway" (technically shorter but only by one letter).
In posts on fora, e-mails or any situation where time and length have no part; it is inexcusable, in my opinion. And yes, I am turning into a pedant
Same lol!
EDIT: Referring to CE's post.
EDIT: Referring to CE's post.
QUOTE(Trebor @ Jan 14 2006, 11:40 PM)
And yes, I am turning into a pedant
Hurray! Another one! Trebor, you are at a crossroads in life: do you ditch your pedantic ways, or read Eats, Shoots and Leaves and embrace the pedantic lifestyle to the full? Perhaps I should run a poll...
QUOTE(Deborah @ Jan 14 2006, 11:44 PM)
QUOTE(Trebor @ Jan 14 2006, 11:40 PM)
And yes, I am turning into a pedant
Hurray! Another one! Trebor, you are at a crossroads in life: do you ditch your pedantic ways, or read Eats, Shoots and Leaves and embrace the pedantic lifestyle to the full? Perhaps I should run a poll...
I've already read it; it was pretty good
Read a brilliant review of it though, which pointed out all the grammatical errors in the introduction
QUOTE(Trebor @ Jan 14 2006, 11:40 PM)
In text messages, they have a point. You have a limit of 150 odd characters, so the phrase "by the way, are you going to school" can be reduced to "btw, r u goin 2 skl" which only uses about 1/2 of the characters. So they have a point if you're trying to fit a lot of information in, or if you are in a hurry.
This is about the only time I use text talk, unless I'm taking the mickey out of it. And I tend to have a lot to say in texts
QUOTE(kenm @ Jan 14 2006, 10:11 PM)
I realise that having been an internet user for more than 10 years, I use many of the standard internet abbreviations. These started long before text talk, having evolved during the days when most people accessed the net through Teletypes at 10-15 characters per second. ROFL is one of those. Others are IIRC, AFAIK, YMMV.
I also. It probably arises because developments in communication overtook the speed at which people adapt. 10 years ago, chat-rooms were more prevalent and (useful); a contiguous response meant tryping fast - 30 users in a chat room were not unusual - hence abbreviations, compensating for the slower speed at which most people typed. Unless one was a programmer, author, secretary or typing-pool worker, a typewriter was an alien object with two-fingered pecking being the voie du salut! In a chat room, same as MSN/AIM, once sent, the line could not be edited so spelling and grammatical error were tolerated.
My concern is whether I can understand someone's message, rather than laying out the big I, like I expect people to conform to my specific foibles. Write txt if you want - it's your expression. Life's too short to keep pointing out how someone hasn't used a subjunctive where appropriate or declined those few words we still decline properly.
Frankly, I'm happier for someone to express themselves as they choose. Few people conform to Fowler's English Usage anyway and the constituents of correct english are arguable.
QUOTE(noodle @ Jan 14 2006, 11:31 PM)
y do u h8 it???!!!!!!
sorry but i find that soooooo annoying when people take the mick out of txt speak. Like, okay, you dont like it, but do you have to take the mick? Like, just because it annoys me when people become all precocious and correct people everytime they make a spelling/grammar mistake, it doesnt make me take the pee out of them.
rant over
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Jan 14 2006, 11:32 PM)
dont no, just do!
Car xpert
oh dear, what would bob say?
QUOTE(sl123451 @ Jan 15 2006, 05:05 PM)
QUOTE(noodle @ Jan 14 2006, 11:31 PM)
y do u h8 it???!!!!!!
sorry but i find that soooooo annoying when people take the mick out of txt speak. Like, okay, you dont like it, but do you have to take the mick? Like, just because it annoys me when people become all precocious and correct people everytime they make a spelling/grammar mistake, it doesnt make me take the pee out of them.
*doesn't
QUOTE(Trebor @ Jan 14 2006, 11:40 PM)
In MSN conversations (since I can touch-type) it is no quicker to type it out in full or in text-talk, so I normally say the whole thing. I find it most irritating when people write words which aren't even shorter, for instance "kool", "time" or "neway" (technically shorter but only by one letter).
Is this supposed to say time as in clocks and watches, or is it something else?!
QUOTE(Choddy @ Jan 15 2006, 05:23 PM)
QUOTE(Trebor @ Jan 14 2006, 11:40 PM)
In MSN conversations (since I can touch-type) it is no quicker to type it out in full or in text-talk, so I normally say the whole thing. I find it most irritating when people write words which aren't even shorter, for instance "kool", "time" or "neway" (technically shorter but only by one letter).
Is this supposed to say time as in clocks and watches, or is it something else?!
I was thinking that!
Oops, my hands wouldn't let me type the incorrect spelling I meant to say "tyme", as in "time" but with a 'y'.
Cause I don't look stupid now
*hides*
I meant to say "tyme", as in "time" but with a 'y'. Cause I don't look stupid now
*hides*
I don't use it unless I'm only a couple of characters over on a text message. I can understand it though - many of my pupils use it to communicate lesson changes! I would be hung, drawn and quartered by my consultant if the ward round notes were in text-speak. Only hospital-approved abbreviations accepted!
While i do use text talk - i only use it when its needed, - such as texting - when speaking short saves money - but not on forums, and i try to type fully on things like MSN - because its nice to have a real conversation using real words when you can!
Simply, I cannot stand it, dear.
I use it in text messages, but it irritates me inordinately in Emails.
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