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Britten_bonanza
Last year it came to the point in my violin life where it was inevitable that I had to learn vibrato. My teacher assured me I picked it up quite quickly. Recently though it has really started to hurt my wrist, and feels stranely uncomfortable. I'm sure its because I'm doing it wrong. Any advice?
Violinia
QUOTE(Britten_bonanza @ Jan 15 2006, 09:23 PM) *

Last year it came to the point in my violin life where it was inevitable that I had to learn vibrato. My teacher assured me I picked it up quite quickly. Recently though it has really started to hurt my wrist, and feels stranely uncomfortable. I'm sure its because I'm doing it wrong. Any advice?


There are several different methods for learning it. How did your teacher teach you how to do it?

Violinia
Britten_bonanza
She taught me wrist vibrato - making the basic siren sounds until the finger is able to move faster.

The problem I have is balanccing my thumb on the fingerboard-the claw-like postion my hand is in really aches, and began to feel very strained quickly. I am very worried this could result in me playing being unable to play for my exam should i continue.
kelkeys
Ive started learning it ive alwaysdone myown interpretation of it pressingmy finger upand down butmy teaher taughtme the same way as yours did
. she also tells me to put my violin like a cello and practice it that way. any other tips would be great kelly xxxxxxxx
janexxx
QUOTE(kelkeys @ Jan 16 2006, 10:11 PM) *


. she also tells me to put my violin like a cello and practice it that way. any other tips would be great kelly xxxxxxxx

Far be it from me to criticise your teacher but I would not have thought this was very helpful as the hand is in the wrong position for the violin. Cello vibrato and violin vibrato are different actions.

Try supporting the scroll against the wall (or get someone to hold it) to give the fiddle some supprot while you wobble. Also look in a mirror to check the action.
AmandaL
The action at fingertip level on the fingerboard is almost a rolling motion. The fleshy tip of the finger - not the flat part - is the bit to use and this is why fingernails MUST be kept short, and I really do mean SHORT. No overhang of the fingernails, otherwise you'll play with flat fingers which makes vibrato impossible.

Whether the main part of the vibrato is arm or wrist, the only way to achieve it is through being relaxed. Any tension whatsoever in the shoulder, arm, wrist or hand, will have a negative effect. The fingers must also remain supple and yield to the movement in the arm and hand.

Main cause of a lack of vibrato development: TENSION!!! Don't grip the violin neck with the thumb and first finger; if you feel you have to do this in order to keep the violin in position, then the shoulder and/or chinrest needs adjusting so that the instrument will remain comfortably in position even when you let your left arm drop down by your side. It should be adjusted so that the weight of your head alone on the chinrest holds the violin steady - no squeezing or having to clamp it in place using pressure from your jaw.

Vibrato should begin to develop naturally once you feel relaxed and at home with the instrument, and your playing. Vibrato adds expression to music, so use it that way. Not every note needs it and vary the speed and width of the vibrato used according to the piece and the emotional effect you want to create.

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Try supporting the scroll against the wall (or get someone to hold it) to give the fiddle some supprot while you wobble
Sorry to be picky here unsure.gif , but describing vibrato as a "wobble", is what often makes students produce just that, a forced "wobbling of the note". The intonation should remain fairly central and the vibrato either added to the note and above (predominantly in sharp keys), or to the note and slightly below (predominantly for flat keys). Wobbling tends to be born out of tension, a vice like grip, as I've already mentioned. Free the thumb and the knuckle joint of the first finger from the neck and it will develop into vibrato. A forced wobble under tension will always sound like a wobble, especially to a listener.
Britten_bonanza
Thank you, your advice is really useful!

xxx
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