Wonder if anyone would like to share with me their experience doing the course of the CT Abrsm.... iam quite keen in taking the course in singapore.
Btw, is there any music teachers association in singapore?

A fellow trombonist locally has taken the CT ABRSM and he thoroughly enjoyed it and found it really beneficial to his teaching. He's encouraged me to think about doing it as well. As the course provided training and a greater insight into instrumental teaching i think it could well be looking at. However at nearly £2000 its a wee bit more expensive than the Teaching Diplomas. However the course can be done in stages so i suppose that would break the cost down somewhat. I wonder if it has a good pass rate?

I did the CTABRSM 2001/2002 for woodwind.
I found it very useful but it depends on your starting point really as to how much you can get out of the course.

'it depends on your starting point really'(QUOTE)

Hi JRBailey, could you expand on this point please. As a private teacher i'm very interested in professional development.

Hi Kornflakes
I have come into instrumental teaching from a classroom teacher's direction- as someone who always loved messing about with instruments.
For me the course has set out the "curriculum areas" ,if you like, about which I should be considering and working upon.
I feel sure that working through the book list and assignments would stimulate any instrumental teacher into reflection and development of their skills.Teachers who have been teaching privately for some time would welcome the discussions about many aspects of instrumental teaching and might be moved to try something different in their own teaching.
Does this merit spending £2000?
For me the answer is yes.

Hi again

BTW regarding pass rates.
Some students did leave the course for various reasons - some personal - but the overall pass rate seemed quite high, at least 75%.
I would say that if you are fairly determined to see the course through then you will.
Paying for the course in a lump sum would certainly help your determination to finish the course, as it did with me!

I have been reading all your comments with great interest as the CT course is something I have "will I, won't I do" for a while now. If you look at just the financial cost of it I think you will find that it is probably not as expensive as you may think. My reasons are that you will get roughly 90 hours of professional help from musicians who have a huge amount of experience and talent to offer. My lessons with my piano teacher (who is worth every penny and still plays professionally) cost me £30 an hour. Over a year this amounts to roughly £720 (2 one hour lessons a month as sadly that is all I can afford at present). 90 hours at £30 for the CT course (I know it's not on a one to one but that in itself has benefits and are a part of the course) add up to £2700 - that's roughly £22 an hour with a certificate at the end (lots of hard work required there no doubt!) to show for your efforts. £2000 for the course - a bargain, I think. What do other CT certificate holder think?

Of course there is still the question for those of us who are working towards both the performing and teaching diplomas or either, "where does the CT course slot into the overall picture". It is probably the nearest (unless anyone can tell me differently) you will get to the PGCE. However I do wonder whether unlike the PGCE,which is a post graduate certificate and done at the end of your main qualification, the CT course should be done BEFORE and as a prerequisite to the teaching diploma. Yes, I know, some may that is a bit of a radical and unwelcome suggestion but to qualify as a school teacher you do have to pay your way through university or college. As the teaching diploma only tests your teaching ability we really need some sort of course that teaches you to teach. I would be very interested to hear from people who have been to one of the music colleges as what exactly their course covered.

I have looked at so many courses, ranging from OU academic through to diplomas and the CT course but I do think the base you must have is a very good private teacher - even the "greats" had and have lessons! It is all very confusing though and I remain in the dark.

Regarding the CT ABRSM and the diplomas, this may be of interest, according to the Open University point system, a DipABRSM is worth 35 points at level 1 to a degree, where as the CT ABRSM is worth 35 points but at level 2. You need 300 points for a degree but it works this way, 120 points at level 1,120 points at level 2 and the hardest bit 60 points at level 3.

I did the CTABRSM course last year and I cannot rate it Highly enough.

I would certainly recommend it to anyone.. As far as the expense is concerned it has proved a very good investment in that my pupil list and my confidence has trebled.

I hope now that the board would consider doing a further course possibly at diploma level working on the same format (hope you are looking in Mr Crozier).

Go for it , it is worth every penny.

Des CTABRSM

As there seem to be quite a number of CTABRSM holders here, why don't we all join the CTABRSM part of the forum so we can bring up CTABRSM-specific topics there? I've joined it and it was simple - just a quick message to Judith Jerome (it tells you how) and she emails you back with the password. So far I seem to be the only one who's joined and I'm champing at the bit here!

just wonder if anyone has done the ct abrsm in singapore??? any feedbacks?
btw, any malaysian or singaporean teachers in this forum???

please excuse my ignorance, but what does btw mean?

btw... by the way

Thankyou

Could you help me by lending me some of the reading list? Thanks

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I did the CTABRSM course last year and I cannot rate it Highly enough.

I would certainly recommend it to anyone.. As far as the expense is concerned it has proved a very good investment in that my pupil list and my confidence has trebled.

I hope now that the board would consider doing a further course possibly at diploma level working on the same format (hope you are looking in Mr Crozier).

Go for it , it is worth every penny.

Des CTABRSM
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Could you help me by lending me some of the reading list? Thanks

Hi all

What qualifications do you need to do the CTABRSM and is it a full time course? If so how long?

Ferretman, follow the link from this page for more information about CT ABRSM.

Thanks very much I have looked at the links. I need to advertise after xmas for some pupils. Thanks again.

In reply to what Ursie said...

True, teaching diplomas concern mainly on teaching skills.

I have done the lowest teaching diploma but i don't think it gives me a great depth of muscial knowledge as one would gain in studying music at a university / music college.

What do others think??

I did the CT ABRSM course in Bristol, UK in 2005/06, specialising in piano.

I found the course extremely useful and informative and the chance to share ideas/experiences with other instrumental teachers has been invaluable. As a private piano teacher, it can be a rather lonely profession and you don't always have the support of other teachers to draw on.

I think you need to have an open mind and be prepared to be both challenged and inspired by this course, as you will be bombarded with a colossal amount of ideas, strategies, theories and techniques to try out with your pupils. However, I know that my teaching has improved considerably from doing this course, I feel better equipped to teach my pupils more effectively and have a support network of like-minded colleagues.

The cost of the course may be an issue. It's not cheap but in my case, I consider it money well spent! My tutors were excellent and they supported and encouraged me throughout. The Board do provide the option of instalment payments so you don't have to pay the whole amount at once, which may be useful.

It's certainly not an easy course and there's a lot of hard work to do, but I think it's well worth it and both you and your pupils will benefit as a result.