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IrisH - LoonY
Are there any North West Piano Competitions for student pianists? Or even just general competitions? I've already missed the Southport Festival, and my school competition is terribly low standard, if it wasn't for a competitor entering the Fantasie Impromptu by Chopin, I could have won hands down with the Schubert Impromptu No.4 in A flat
SteveHopwood
Hi I-L.

Go here for the Federation of Festivals. They publish a year book with all their festivals listed, along with when they happen and a contact number. Let me know if you have difficulty.

Steve biggrin.gif
IrisH - LoonY
I'm guessing you email them for a copy? huh.gif
SteveHopwood
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 11:04 PM) *

I'm guessing you email them for a copy? huh.gif

yes, but it costs a few quid - not much, but might be a time to tap the parents biggrin.gif
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(SteveHopwood @ Feb 12 2006, 11:08 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 11:04 PM) *

I'm guessing you email them for a copy? huh.gif

yes, but it costs a few quid - not much, but might be a time to tap the parents biggrin.gif


No can do on that. I need to get cash for
1) SRC subscription
2) Grade 7 Recorder books
3) Clothes
4) My meal on the 25th
5) Clubbing on the 21st
6) Meeting someone at a cafe in Liverpool on the 20th
7) Train fares for 4 5 6
8) Grade 7 Recorder exam fee
9) Anything else that may crop up
chocolatedog
Expensive business, life, isn't it?! laugh.gif
Fen
Hmm... so you're looking for a standard that's higher than your school one, but where you still can win as long as no one trumps your Schubert? wink.gif

More practically, perhaps your school music department could be persuaded to buy a copy of the festivals guide - might be of use to several students?
YetAnotherPianist
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 11:15 PM) *

No can do on that. I need to get cash for
...
5) Clubbing on the 21st

You need cash to go clubbing? huh.gif
chocolatedog
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Feb 13 2006, 11:36 AM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 11:15 PM) *

No can do on that. I need to get cash for
...
5) Clubbing on the 21st

You need cash to go clubbing? huh.gif


No YAP - re-write that as You need to go clubbing???? huh.gif laugh.gif

Incidentally where's the "It's not the winning that's important; it's the taking part...." ??!! laugh.gif (Joking....... tongue.gif )
AnotherPianist
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 09:46 PM) *

...my school competition is terribly low standard, if it wasn't for a competitor entering the Fantasie Impromptu by Chopin, I could have won hands down with the Schubert Impromptu No.4 in A flat

If pieces at that level are being played and the standard of the competition is 'terribly low' I dread to think how badly they must be being played. Is it the school who can name the hardest piano piece and sit at the piano claiming they're playing it competition wink.gif?

QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Feb 13 2006, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Feb 13 2006, 11:36 AM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 11:15 PM) *

No can do on that. I need to get cash for
...
5) Clubbing on the 21st

You need cash to go clubbing? huh.gif


No YAP - re-write that as You need to go clubbing???? huh.gif laugh.gif

I-L., you won't need any money to go clubbing since you're too young to get in: quite a cheap night really, you go to the door, they say you can't go in and you save lots of money wink.gif. Bit of a waste of train fare though....
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Feb 13 2006, 12:22 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 09:46 PM) *

...my school competition is terribly low standard, if it wasn't for a competitor entering the Fantasie Impromptu by Chopin, I could have won hands down with the Schubert Impromptu No.4 in A flat

If pieces at that level are being played and the standard of the competition is 'terribly low' I dread to think how badly they must be being played. Is it the school who can name the hardest piano piece and sit at the piano claiming they're playing it competition wink.gif?


No, it's just that most are Grade 5 and below. But incidently, the hardest piece in each category (Junior, Senior and Prepatory school) ALWAYS wins. I'm hoping that the Schubert can compare to the Chopin huh.gif

QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Feb 13 2006, 12:22 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 09:46 PM) *

...my school competition is terribly low standard, if it wasn't for a competitor entering the Fantasie Impromptu by Chopin, I could have won hands down with the Schubert Impromptu No.4 in A flat

If pieces at that level are being played and the standard of the competition is 'terribly low' I dread to think how badly they must be being played. Is it the school who can name the hardest piano piece and sit at the piano claiming they're playing it competition wink.gif?

QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Feb 13 2006, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Feb 13 2006, 11:36 AM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 12 2006, 11:15 PM) *

No can do on that. I need to get cash for
...
5) Clubbing on the 21st

You need cash to go clubbing? huh.gif


No YAP - re-write that as You need to go clubbing???? huh.gif laugh.gif

I-L., you won't need any money to go clubbing since you're too young to get in: quite a cheap night really, you go to the door, they say you can't go in and you save lots of money wink.gif. Bit of a waste of train fare though....

Well...I wouldn't be too hasty about that now AP wink.gif But I do like going to Manchester to be with people so it wouldn't be a total waste of train fare!

CD, I don't need to go clubbing at all, but since it'll be 2 days before my birthday when I plan to go, why not eh? laugh.gif

YAP yes, money i.e. train fare, drinks (only coke/water etc, I don't drink alcohol), food, protection laugh.gif etc

QUOTE(Fen @ Feb 13 2006, 11:20 AM) *

Hmm... so you're looking for a standard that's higher than your school one, but where you still can win as long as no one trumps your Schubert? wink.gif

More practically, perhaps your school music department could be persuaded to buy a copy of the festivals guide - might be of use to several students?


laugh.gif Not quite

Possibly, I'm not sure, I might enter a festival close to my school if it still goes on

QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Feb 12 2006, 11:27 PM) *

Expensive business, life, isn't it?! laugh.gif


Very sad.gif
sarah-flute
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 13 2006, 05:23 PM) *

No, it's just that most are Grade 5 and below. But incidently, the hardest piece in each category (Junior, Senior and Prepatory school) ALWAYS wins. I'm hoping that the Schubert can compare to the Chopin huh.gif

If the hardest piece always wins, you may as well play a hard piece badly, then? The judges should have more sense... How a piece is played is more important: I'd rather listen to someone play an easier piece really beautifully than someone lose a fight with a harder one. Playing all the notes in approximately the right order is barely half the battle....

QUOTE
CD, I don't need to go clubbing at all, but since it'll be 2 days before my birthday when I plan to go, why not eh? laugh.gif

If you have money for train fare and clubbing then you have money to get the festival guide, it's just a question of where your priorities lie...

QUOTE
YAP yes, money i.e. train fare, drinks (only coke/water etc, I don't drink alcohol), food, protection laugh.gif etc

I think YAP was suggesting that you don't actually NEED to go clubbing - you want to - which is a different kettle of fish entirely.
YetAnotherPianist
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Feb 13 2006, 05:29 PM) *

I think YAP was suggesting that you don't actually NEED to go clubbing - you want to - which is a different kettle of fish entirely.

Yes, that's what I was trying to get at smile.gif.
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Feb 13 2006, 05:29 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 13 2006, 05:23 PM) *

No, it's just that most are Grade 5 and below. But incidently, the hardest piece in each category (Junior, Senior and Prepatory school) ALWAYS wins. I'm hoping that the Schubert can compare to the Chopin huh.gif

If the hardest piece always wins, you may as well play a hard piece badly, then? The judges should have more sense... How a piece is played is more important: I'd rather listen to someone play an easier piece really beautifully than someone lose a fight with a harder one. Playing all the notes in approximately the right order is barely half the battle....

QUOTE
CD, I don't need to go clubbing at all, but since it'll be 2 days before my birthday when I plan to go, why not eh? laugh.gif

If you have money for train fare and clubbing then you have money to get the festival guide, it's just a question of where your priorities lie...

QUOTE
YAP yes, money i.e. train fare, drinks (only coke/water etc, I don't drink alcohol), food, protection laugh.gif etc

I think YAP was suggesting that you don't actually NEED to go clubbing - you want to - which is a different kettle of fish entirely.

Well of course the better played the piece the better chance of winning rolleyes.gif

That's the thing Sarah, I DON'T have the money (yet)

I dunno, I'll ask in school about local competitions. Saves getting the book laugh.gif
AnotherPianist
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 13 2006, 05:23 PM) *

No, it's just that most are Grade 5 and below. But incidently, the hardest piece in each category (Junior, Senior and Prepatory school) ALWAYS wins. I'm hoping that the Schubert can compare to the Chopin huh.gif

Maybe I'm missing something here buy you can't really complain because you are grade 5 standard too surely unsure.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif.

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 13 2006, 05:46 PM) *

Well of course the better played the piece the better chance of winning rolleyes.gif

That's not a competition for piano playing then: if it were the best performance would win, taking into account both the difficulty of the piece, but more importantly how well it is played. Someone who can play a hard piece badly is not a skilled pianist: they're an inferior robot (inferior since the robot wouldn't make any mistakes) but someone who can play a simple piece well is actually demonstrating pianistic skill smile.gif. Obviously it's a balance between the two, but if the hardest piece always wins it's not representative of who's the best pianist rolleyes.gif.
Choddy
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Feb 14 2006, 12:22 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 13 2006, 05:23 PM) *

No, it's just that most are Grade 5 and below. But incidently, the hardest piece in each category (Junior, Senior and Prepatory school) ALWAYS wins. I'm hoping that the Schubert can compare to the Chopin huh.gif

Maybe I'm missing something here buy you can't really complain because you are grade 5 standard too surely unsure.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif.



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Feb 14 2006, 12:22 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 13 2006, 05:23 PM) *

No, it's just that most are Grade 5 and below. But incidently, the hardest piece in each category (Junior, Senior and Prepatory school) ALWAYS wins. I'm hoping that the Schubert can compare to the Chopin huh.gif

Maybe I'm missing something here buy you can't really complain because you are grade 5 standard too surely unsure.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif.

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 13 2006, 05:46 PM) *

Well of course the better played the piece the better chance of winning rolleyes.gif

That's not a competition for piano playing then: if it were the best performance would win, taking into account both the difficulty of the piece, but more importantly how well it is played. Someone who can play a hard piece badly is not a skilled pianist: they're an inferior robot (inferior since the robot wouldn't make any mistakes) but someone who can play a simple piece well is actually demonstrating pianistic skill smile.gif. Obviously it's a balance between the two, but if the hardest piece always wins it's not representative of who's the best pianist rolleyes.gif.


Well, AP, some of the younger kids (year 3-6) are remarkably good! Last year we had one 9/10 year old do the theme and 2 or 3 variations from a Mozart Theme and Variations ohmy.gif VERY impressive to say the least, and a 10 year old do the CPE Bach Solfeggio

But, incidently, the most difficult pieces always do seem to be pretty well performed. Maybe it's just coincidence
AnotherPianist
QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 14 2006, 07:44 PM) *

But, incidently, the most difficult pieces always do seem to be pretty well performed. Maybe it's just coincidence

Well I would hope they are, because I would hope that better pianists would be playing them. However, for a given pianist there will be an optimum difficulty of piece to play to have the best chance of winning. Therefore simply picking the hardest piece one can play does not necessarily give one the best chance of winning. Unless the objectives of the competition are not as they seem....
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Feb 15 2006, 12:16 PM) *

QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Feb 14 2006, 07:44 PM) *

But, incidently, the most difficult pieces always do seem to be pretty well performed. Maybe it's just coincidence

Well I would hope they are, because I would hope that better pianists would be playing them. However, for a given pianist there will be an optimum difficulty of piece to play to have the best chance of winning. Therefore simply picking the hardest piece one can play does not necessarily give one the best chance of winning. Unless the objectives of the competition are not as they seem....

I'm praying I can get the Schubert Impromptu in A flat polished in the next couple of weeks
Petite Joueuse
Which of the Grade 7 recorder pieces do you need? We bought loads and don't necessarily want to keep them all (but will never part with Sammartini!)
IrisH - LoonY
QUOTE(Petite Joueuse @ Feb 15 2006, 11:32 PM) *

Which of the Grade 7 recorder pieces do you need? We bought loads and don't necessarily want to keep them all (but will never part with Sammartini!)

Really? smile.gif

The Heberle Concerto in G, Bowen Sonatina, Vivaldi Sonata in G minor from Il Pastor Fido and Couperin La Vivacite for fun tongue.gif
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