Here ya are.
I think everyone deserves to hear this "note" sorta in the beginning/middle of the song.

If you listen to the song, you'll know what note im on about, lol.

Any advice on what the last, "growly" bit is called, technique-wise?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kYiVmm00R4...itney%20houston

Sorry, don't know what it's called, but thoughts anyway.

Okay, she's got a great voice and is a real 'showman', but I hate it when people don't just get on and sing a song without all the great dramatics and vocal gymnastics inbetween words.

am I the only one?

No, I can't stand her, for exactly the same reason. All that vocal warbling, with the excessive lip movement. ick. And I hate that particular piece because of all that artificial eye dabbing she does for melodramatic effect. Puke.

And to answer the question, nope, sorry, don't know the technique. I've heard it used a lot in jazz though, so perhaps a jazz style teacher could help

I assume this is related to the post further down regarding the growling technique, which, as you've seen, no one has yet been able to answer. I agree with what's already been said - I think she makes such a meal of it!

I think it is more likely to be an individual voice characteristic as opposed to a specific technique.

David

If you include coloratura then I can't go along with that. Okay about lyrical sopranos but I get transported by bel canto, expecially Donizetti. (However, I don't include screaming or wobbling or those pretend coloraturas who insist on glissando-ing. Unfortunately, you don't get many coloraturas these days - they're probably too busy chatting on the net rather than practicing!)

Watermelon, you're not comparing Whitney to a collaratura are you?


Ugh, just the name takes me back to the 90's when I couldn't get away from the sound of & #39;Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiayaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
iiiiiiiiiiiiii will always louhuhve you-oo-ou-ou-ou-ou-ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu'. Nasty stuff.

Sounds a bit more like screaming than a note to me...

I much prefer katyjay's version...

She's straining her voice in the high notes, and it sounds HORRIBLE. That grating noises is shouting, not singing, and is not going to do her voice any favours in the long run. I'd bet that after one song/recording she's completely voiceless for a couple of days.

For goodness' sake, Reignmurda don't ever try to copy it. You'll do yourself a damage.

Pretty amazing saxophonist, though.


Sarah - thanks.

Oh no, I don't think so!
(Just listening to Blanche Marchesi, a world apart! Okay, not strictly a coloratura but how accurate, how in-tune. How beautiful.)


Yes, I recall. You could hear that noise at Euston/Houston Station any time. Usually the horrid asbestos brakes on the older trains.

Guys, she sells records therefore she is genuinely liked. Methinks you are all a little bit jealous....

Hmmm, no, I rather think not. I can think of dozens of bands and singers who sell lots of records. Does that mean people like all of them? Presumably. Does that mean they're all equally talented as the best classical musicians? Not necessarily. Does that mean that I want to sound like them? In the vast majority of cases, definitely not.

There are a few singers in the pop and rock world who have amazing voices which I enjoy listening to, and who I would love to sound like. Possibly even a few I could count myself jealous of. Whitney Houston ain't one of them.

Even if I wanted to be famous (which I never have - wouldn't suit me at all) it wouldn't be for screeching into my mic...

ROFL! Jealous of WHITNEY? Bless!

Britney Spears also sells lots of records. I sincerely doubt anyone here harbors even a shred of jealously toward her or Whitney.

Besides, the marketing of popular music is somewhat different. It's about selling a package, not just music. Consider how a really new pop scene hits the streets. E.g. "punk" . So said the teen marketing companies it would never catch on, expecially after the Pistols had their first commercial record banned and withdrawn, and EMI executives copped it.

But it did catch on - two years later fashion and music moguls hijacked the scene purloined the fashion (even the language, still popular today) and SOLD it back to teenagers from whom they stole it. These days promoting teen fashions/attitudes is achieved via music, the front to a huge commercial exploitation.

I read threads here about teens being ostracised / teased over their love of classical music. That's because they haven't toed the commercial line - an enormous pressure is exerted on them to do so, peer pressure comes with the package.

Nothing new has happened on the pop music scene for years because of the intense pressure to preserve what is. It is a known. The question is, how do you sell new artists to the public? They can't write songs, they can barely sing so you sell them on the basis of their sexuality and/or anti-establishment behaviour.
That's why people like Simon Cowpat score people on whether they will sell, not originality or talent.

WS
As chocolatedog said somewhere - clockwork toys... there's a great army of them out there.

Just watched/listened to this.

GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't get me wrong, I respect the woman and all those who market her, but pleeeeeese - what has she done to that song.

I need to listen to KatyJay's version to clean out my ears after that!

Amber
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Amber - if you listened to it all the way through - you're braver than I am !

No I definitely am not jealous. Even if it could bring me millions - I would not put my voice through that.

Thanks for sharing that! Ouch!
*goes off to get Anadin Extra Extra for sore head*

I used to love Whitney when she first started out..many moons ago when I was alot younger.
However...she's ruined it all with that stupid shouting stuff she turned to...but the Americans think it's great...whoo...whoo...hey man, did'ya hear that vocal gymnastic e.t.c.

Bit like silly Country & Western and silly Dolly Parton with equally ridiculous body complete with ridiculous face lift.

What a strange culture!