melody_maker
Mar 5 2006, 04:42 PM
Hey
I have just learnt Chopins Nocturne in C# minor and i love it so much! i was wondering what sort of grade it is?
Thanks
rachel xxx

xxx
IrisH - LoonY
Mar 5 2006, 04:53 PM
Depends what one you mean. The Op.27 is at absolute minimum DipABRSM along with it's D flat counterpart. The Posthumous one is about Grade 7/8
chopet
Mar 5 2006, 05:39 PM
Ya, if its the posthumous one, ie. the one from the film 'the pianist', that ones grade 8. I remember doing it for my grade 8 a few years ago....
Oddball
Mar 5 2006, 05:46 PM
Really? Damn.....
Didn't think it was that kind of standard....
IrisH - LoonY
Mar 5 2006, 05:50 PM
QUOTE(Oddball @ Mar 5 2006, 05:46 PM)

Really? Damn.....
Didn't think it was that kind of standard....

Doesn't look it does it?
Hey at least you have 2/3s of it done!!!
Oddball
Mar 5 2006, 05:53 PM
It's just getting those scales in sync with the left hand....
I'll run away, I'm hijacking...
IrisH - LoonY
Mar 5 2006, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(Oddball @ Mar 5 2006, 05:53 PM)

It's just getting those scales in sync with the left hand....
I'll run away, I'm hijacking...

Don't forget you can have plenty of rubato in Chopin Nocturnes!!!
Oddball
Mar 5 2006, 06:00 PM
How long have I got to do that 35ths scale? In minutes, we're talking
IrisH - LoonY
Mar 5 2006, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(Oddball @ Mar 5 2006, 06:00 PM)

How long have I got to do that 35ths scale? In minutes, we're talking

sarah-flute
Mar 5 2006, 09:59 PM
QUOTE(Oddball @ Mar 5 2006, 06:00 PM)

How long have I got to do that 35ths scale? In minutes, we're talking

Lisa87
Mar 6 2006, 12:37 PM
My teacher's got the book with the music from the film 'The Pianist' & she's going to lend it to me. I love Nocturne in C# minor - what's it like to play? Is it difficult?
Lisa xxx
Oddball
Mar 6 2006, 03:43 PM
The first page isn't bad, nor's the second, but as usual the third and final one is the killer. IMHO.
melody_maker
Mar 8 2006, 05:33 PM
Wow, I didnt realize it was such a high standard!!!!!!!!

its great to play, and i didnt find it too difficult!!
Oddball
Mar 8 2006, 10:17 PM
Nor me
IrisH - LoonY
Mar 8 2006, 10:19 PM
I third it
Though...all nocturnes by Chopin should be regarded as hard, due to the expressive qualities needed
chopet
Mar 13 2006, 06:52 PM
If anyones interested, I just found this video of Wladyslaw Szpilman (the pianist who the film 'the pianist' was about)playing this piece on
youtube .
Here it is.....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oBE-snJlNYg
[wannabe]pianogenius.
Mar 14 2006, 01:53 PM
can i just ask what grade the 2nd movement of the moonlight sonata is (approx)? if anyone knows?

thanks
Oddball
Mar 14 2006, 04:17 PM
About grade 7 apparently, there was a thread on this a whil;e back..
[wannabe]pianogenius.
Mar 14 2006, 04:20 PM
oh sorry.. i'll check it out now... sorry
Oddball
Mar 14 2006, 05:02 PM
That's alright!
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Mar 14 2006, 05:14 PM
What about Nocturne in Eb?
Oddball
Mar 14 2006, 10:03 PM
I think that one's really hard....
sarah-flute
Mar 14 2006, 10:22 PM
Is the Eb one the one that's really well known? If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's really beautiful, but to my uneducated ear sounds like it'd be HARD!
StuMac
Mar 15 2006, 09:14 AM
I think the E flat (op 9 no 2) it's a good grade 8 at least! Jeane (is that how it's spelled) played it realy nicely at Egham.
My teacher recons the C# minor is the easiest nocturne and thinks it's grade 6 / 7.
The other relatively easy one is the Lento in G minor, which is also one of my favorites. Fingering is a bit tricky, but you can take it really slowly and give youself time to get it right. It's been used as a grade 7 piece I think.
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Mar 15 2006, 11:23 AM
Yes it is op.9 no.2 that I was talking about

I had learnt the first page for a concert before we found out someone else was playing it so I stopped and learnt this Tchaikovsky piece instead...The last page looks tricky..,.
Noodelz
Mar 16 2006, 05:36 PM
QUOTE(chopet @ Mar 13 2006, 06:52 PM)

If anyones interested, I just found this video of Wladyslaw Szpilman (the pianist who the film 'the pianist' was about)playing this piece on
youtube .
Here it is.....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oBE-snJlNYgDoes anyone know which edition he is plaing by the way? Seems to be slightly different to my one.
Oddball
Mar 16 2006, 06:04 PM
I noticed that too, on the F# to G# trill, he puts an E in beforehand, and a few other different notes here and there...
Noodelz
Mar 16 2006, 06:22 PM
I think he might have added himself. Chopin was dead when this was published anyway so he couldn't have changed anything.
tiger_vio
Mar 16 2006, 07:41 PM
how about the nocturne op.9 no.2 (e flat) I did it quite a while ago, never knew what grade it was.
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Mar 16 2006, 08:02 PM
Tiger Vio look earlier in the thread!
QUOTE(StuMac @ Mar 15 2006, 09:14 AM)

I think the E flat (op 9 no 2) it's a good grade 8 at least! Jeane (is that how it's spelled) played it realy nicely at Egham.
My teacher recons the C# minor is the easiest nocturne and thinks it's grade 6 / 7.
The other relatively easy one is the Lento in G minor, which is also one of my favorites. Fingering is a bit tricky, but you can take it really slowly and give youself time to get it right. It's been used as a grade 7 piece I think.
I love that piece too!
Oddball
Mar 16 2006, 09:38 PM
Just a quick question for players of the piece: What fingering do you use for The Eb / E natrual trills? I use 1 & 2, but others I know play it 2 & 3..... what do you do?
Noodelz
Mar 17 2006, 04:19 PM
I use 2 + 3.
Oddball
Mar 17 2006, 07:38 PM
Why did I say 1 + 2? I meant 1 + 3...
melody_maker
Mar 18 2006, 11:51 AM
I use 2+3

my piano teacher uses 1 and 3 for his trills too!
sarah-flute
Mar 18 2006, 12:32 PM
Speaking as a total non-expert, I think I sometimes use one, sometimes the other, but I think 1-3 is actually easier even though it seems weird. But not in Chopin: I can't even play Chopin, let alone use trills in it
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Mar 18 2006, 01:20 PM
I think I've always used 2 and 3
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