reignmurda
Apr 19 2006, 02:56 PM
Hiya.
When i hear a woman sing it seems as though they hit/sing notes which have a bigger range from eachother than a male.
For example: -
When George Michael sings he will sing a chorus with notes C-F.
Whereas Whitney Houston for example will sing C-C.
Is it just me who thinks that. Is there a scientific reason for this.
PS;- the examples (George and Whitney) and the notes recorded above may not be the ACTUAL notes they sing, but im just showing the woman's "range" bigger than the males.
jod
Apr 19 2006, 04:20 PM
Physiologically it should be the other way around, due to the proportional length of the vocal folds and the naso-phragengial tracts in men and women. Certainly once you include a man's falsetto register it is almost invariably bigger.
I seen to remember a two-hour lecture on the subject when I was at college...fascinating.
sarah-flute
Apr 19 2006, 04:35 PM
As far as I have noticed it's usually the other way around - especially including falsetto.
reignmurda
Apr 20 2006, 07:01 PM
I hope u realise that i am NOT talking about their entire vocal range.
I am talking about if take a chorus and give it to a woman, her first two notes will be further apart than the blokes. And so on with the rest of the notes.
sbhoa
Apr 20 2006, 07:03 PM
QUOTE(reignmurda @ Apr 20 2006, 08:01 PM)

I hope u realise that i am NOT talking about their entire vocal range.
I am talking about if take a chorus and give it to a woman, her first two notes will be further apart than the blokes. And so on with the rest of the notes.
Not if they sing the same song....
sarah-flute
Apr 20 2006, 07:19 PM
I'm sorry, I really don't understand what you're asking at all.
reignmurda
Apr 20 2006, 08:15 PM
Okay. Take ANY chorus sung by a well trained female singer. Then take any chorus and make a male singer sing it.
Now, it seems to me that the woman, whilst singing the chorus, would cover a GREATER RANGE OF NOTES whilst singing. IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THEIR VOCAL RANGE IN GENERAL.
(capitals= not shouting, lol, just trying to make it a little clearer.)
Boo Radley
Apr 20 2006, 08:16 PM
sarah-flute
Apr 20 2006, 08:23 PM
QUOTE(reignmurda @ Apr 20 2006, 09:15 PM)

Okay. Take ANY chorus sung by a well trained female singer. Then take any chorus and make a male singer sing it.
Now, it seems to me that the woman, whilst singing the chorus, would cover a GREATER RANGE OF NOTES whilst singing. IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THEIR VOCAL RANGE IN GENERAL.
(capitals= not shouting, lol, just trying to make it a little clearer.)
You're not making any sense. Two people singing the same music will cover the same range unless they're changing the music along the way. If they're singing different music then who knows, they might sing a completely different range....??!
And there's no need for caps - it doesn't make what you're saying any clearer, and yes, it does come across as shouting.
dcmbarton
Apr 20 2006, 08:39 PM
I don't know what your talking about either it doesn't make any sense, and like many of your other posts it hasn't got much response.
David
YetAnotherPianist
Apr 20 2006, 09:29 PM
Truer words were never spoken

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dcmbarton
Apr 20 2006, 09:36 PM
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Apr 20 2006, 10:29 PM)

Truer words were never spoken

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Totally agree with you.
David
sarah-flute
Apr 20 2006, 09:39 PM
Ditto
jod
Apr 21 2006, 08:51 AM
Reignmunda, Range when applied to a voice has a specific meaning. It is the compass of notes that someone can sing. Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey, tend to embelish their choruses more than for example George Michael does, but if you included George Michael's falsetto range, I bet it would be greater.
When talking about singing, please use the correct terms, otherwise you'll just come across as an idiot and you won't get the question answered that you wan't answered.
When it comes to the physiology of flexibility, theres no difference between sexes. It's a question of style, and technique.
reignmurda
Apr 21 2006, 03:18 PM
wow.
Who knew that a simple question, whether understandable to people of all levels of intelligence or not, would cause so many people to be so angry! LMAO!!
reignmurda
Apr 21 2006, 04:20 PM
Well have you considered the fact that your comment might suggest something about U rather than my posts.
Dagny
Apr 21 2006, 04:23 PM
A question isn't simple if it isn't put into terms people can actually understand. If you don't phrase a question properly, don't get ####ed AND USE ALL CAPS to try and get your rather inane point across. Your question, once you managed to make it clear, was very nicely answered, as are all of your questions which often could be answered by google or better answered by a teacher. It really irritates people to be treated as if they're not intelligent when you are the one who doesn't take the time to find out the correct terminology and refuses to accept the answers given.
And do you have to make 50 topics about belting? Find a teacher, take a class and learn how to do it from someone who can actually teach you. This forum is not a substitute for a teacher and you can really mess up your voice trying to act like it is.
reignmurda
Apr 21 2006, 04:29 PM
Thank you Dagny. A lovely, well constructed answer. Thanks.
ultrasoprano
May 1 2006, 04:31 AM
Are you trying to talk about the intervals? Like, are you saying that when women sing it sounds like the jumps in their voice are greater?
Or are you trying to say that women add more ornaments to a chorus of a song? If so, this is sometimes true.
And I understand that it is hard to get ideas from your mind into words. You just can't find the right words, and even though you know what you mean, someone else might not. I have had this problem too. There are some posts where my mind goes totally off. But people have never gotton mad at me. And I am very sorry that people had to go off on you like they did. Lo Siento. (mi spanglish talking) (that means i feel it, or understand it, or i'm sorry) whatever
christina
Just got called back for the part of Cosette in Les mis!!!!!!!
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