Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: In Strict Time
Forums > ABRSM > General Music Forum
pianoman84
Hi,
what is the italian term for in strict time??? Thanks biggrin.gif
Oddball
Marcato? I think so, I'll double check.
Storini
tempo giusto.
mattrattley
i thought marcato basically meant forced and more accented... could be wrong. i'd probably say non rubato, indicating that the performer shouldn't play around with rhythm at all... but i'm clueless ph34r.gif
janexxx
Rigoroso?? maybe
jo.clarinet
Tempo giusto is right!
janexxx
QUOTE(Storini @ Jul 2 2006, 01:15 PM) *

tempo giusto.

I thought that at first but it means more like appropriate than strict. I guess you could argue that rubato is appropriate in some cases.

Just been to Dolmetsch on line

rigor (m.), rigore (f.) (Italian) strict time
rigoroso (Italian) in strict time
Dangermouse
Tempo stricto?
Frederic Chopin
QUOTE(Storini @ Jul 2 2006, 01:15 PM) *
tempo giusto.

QUOTE(jo.clarinet @ Jul 2 2006, 01:18 PM) *
Tempo giusto is right!

I would definitely go for tempo giusto.
petrat
Tempo guisto! (Guisto -- Just from Justice.!)
janexxx
QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 2 2006, 01:20 PM) *

QUOTE(Storini @ Jul 2 2006, 01:15 PM) *

tempo giusto.

I thought that at first but it means more like appropriate than strict. I guess you could argue that rubato is appropriate in some cases.

Just been to Dolmetsch on line

rigor (m.), rigore (f.) (Italian) strict time
rigoroso (Italian) in strict time


Also from Dolmetsch on line

Tempo giusto (Italian m.) the speed the style demands, the appropriate tempo

I suppose it depends how strict you are about the definition strict wink.gif
saxmaniac
guisto -- equal, steady and exact time
arabesque
Tempo Comodo = at a convenient speend
Tempo guisto in strict time

From old "ABRSM Rudiments and Theory of Music" book
noodle
AB guide to music theory Part 1 - tempo giusto - in strict time, rigoroso - strict.
fsharpminor
Definitly Tempo Giusto.

The best ecample I know is the Schubert Piano Sonata in A minor D784 I think, marked Allegro Giusto.
If you know this , its obvious the first movement should be played exactly at the same pace throughout.
jonscott14
QUOTE(jo.clarinet @ Jul 2 2006, 01:18 PM) *

Tempo giusto is right!

Indeed it is, but so far at the grad old ages of 16 i have been told that it mean : with gusto, very fast, at a suitable pace, a gusty tempo and finally, in strict time, although most sources tend to think it's either in strict time or a precise tempo, the very first two links on google contradict each other! so i'm stumped! blink.gif
Car Expert
QUOTE(Virginia Tech Multimedia Music Dictionary)
Tempo Giusto
A directive to perform a certain passage of a composition in exact, strict time or a return to the regular tempo.
Car Expert
Dangermouse
I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...
jod
My gut reaction is Tempo Guisto, that certainly what I advise my Theory Students. As explained guisto is taken from the same root as justice. Italian is a latinate language, so us anglophiles whose language is a mixture of almost everything should expect it to follow latin rules not english ones.
baroquebassoon
ritmico - rhythmically
pianist_1210
QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM) *

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...

'tempo stricto' .... blink.gif
is that an actual term?? unsure.gif
Dangermouse
Oh yes!
possom
QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 04:11 AM) *

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...



laugh.gif I agree
janexxx
QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM) *

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...

'tempo stricto' .... blink.gif
is that an actual term?? unsure.gif

'Tis now. tongue.gif
pianist_1210
QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 07:17 AM) *

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM) *

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...

'tempo stricto' .... blink.gif
is that an actual term?? unsure.gif

'Tis now. tongue.gif

laugh.gif Yea...coinage...
better remember myself not to write that in my school music exam... tongue.gif tongue.gif
janexxx
QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 14 2006, 01:04 PM) *

QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 07:17 AM) *

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM) *

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...

'tempo stricto' .... blink.gif
is that an actual term?? unsure.gif

'Tis now. tongue.gif

laugh.gif Yea...coinage...
better remember myself not to write that in my school music exam... tongue.gif tongue.gif

You could always say you'd read it on the ABRSM website laugh.gif
pianist_1210
QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 14 2006, 01:04 PM) *

QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 07:17 AM) *

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM) *

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...

'tempo stricto' .... blink.gif
is that an actual term?? unsure.gif

'Tis now. tongue.gif

laugh.gif Yea...coinage...
better remember myself not to write that in my school music exam... tongue.gif tongue.gif

You could always say you'd read it on the ABRSM website laugh.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif
....yea....
JuliaR
QUOTE(Oddball @ Jul 3 2006, 12:02 AM) *

Marcato? I think so, I'll double check.


Marcato literally means "marked" as in forced, accented. That's about the only vocabulary I know! laugh.gif
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.