pianoman84
Jul 2 2006, 12:00 PM
Hi,
what is the italian term for in strict time??? Thanks
Oddball
Jul 2 2006, 12:02 PM
Marcato? I think so, I'll double check.
Storini
Jul 2 2006, 12:15 PM
tempo giusto.
mattrattley
Jul 2 2006, 12:16 PM
i thought marcato basically meant forced and more accented... could be wrong. i'd probably say non rubato, indicating that the performer shouldn't play around with rhythm at all... but i'm clueless
janexxx
Jul 2 2006, 12:17 PM
Rigoroso?? maybe
jo.clarinet
Jul 2 2006, 12:18 PM
Tempo giusto is right!
janexxx
Jul 2 2006, 12:20 PM
QUOTE(Storini @ Jul 2 2006, 01:15 PM)

tempo giusto.
I thought that at first but it means more like appropriate than strict. I guess you could argue that rubato is appropriate in some cases.
Just been to Dolmetsch on line
rigor (m.), rigore (f.) (Italian) strict time
rigoroso (Italian) in strict time
Dangermouse
Jul 2 2006, 01:16 PM
Tempo stricto?
Frederic Chopin
Jul 2 2006, 05:15 PM
QUOTE(Storini @ Jul 2 2006, 01:15 PM)

tempo giusto.
QUOTE(jo.clarinet @ Jul 2 2006, 01:18 PM)

Tempo giusto is right!
I would definitely go for tempo giusto.
petrat
Jul 2 2006, 05:23 PM
Tempo guisto! (Guisto -- Just from Justice.!)
janexxx
Jul 2 2006, 07:09 PM
QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 2 2006, 01:20 PM)

QUOTE(Storini @ Jul 2 2006, 01:15 PM)

tempo giusto.
I thought that at first but it means more like appropriate than strict. I guess you could argue that rubato is appropriate in some cases.
Just been to Dolmetsch on line
rigor (m.), rigore (f.) (Italian) strict time
rigoroso (Italian) in strict time
Also from Dolmetsch on line
Tempo giusto (Italian m.) the speed the style demands, the appropriate tempo
I suppose it depends how strict you are about the definition strict
saxmaniac
Jul 2 2006, 09:32 PM
guisto -- equal, steady and exact time
arabesque
Jul 2 2006, 09:43 PM
Tempo Comodo = at a convenient speend
Tempo guisto in strict time
From old "ABRSM Rudiments and Theory of Music" book
noodle
Jul 2 2006, 10:09 PM
AB guide to music theory Part 1 - tempo giusto - in strict time, rigoroso - strict.
fsharpminor
Jul 3 2006, 08:46 AM
Definitly Tempo Giusto.
The best ecample I know is the Schubert Piano Sonata in A minor D784 I think, marked Allegro Giusto.
If you know this , its obvious the first movement should be played exactly at the same pace throughout.
jonscott14
Jul 3 2006, 12:45 PM
QUOTE(jo.clarinet @ Jul 2 2006, 01:18 PM)

Tempo giusto is right!
Indeed it is, but so far at the grad old ages of 16 i have been told that it mean : with gusto, very fast, at a suitable pace, a gusty tempo and finally, in strict time, although most sources tend to think it's either in strict time or a precise tempo, the very first two links on google contradict each other! so i'm stumped!
Car Expert
Jul 3 2006, 12:59 PM
QUOTE(Virginia Tech Multimedia Music Dictionary)
Tempo Giusto
A directive to perform a certain passage of a composition in exact, strict time or a return to the regular tempo.
Car Expert
Dangermouse
Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM
I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...
My gut reaction is Tempo Guisto, that certainly what I advise my Theory Students. As explained guisto is taken from the same root as justice. Italian is a latinate language, so us anglophiles whose language is a mixture of almost everything should expect it to follow latin rules not english ones.
baroquebassoon
Jul 5 2006, 05:21 PM
ritmico - rhythmically
pianist_1210
Jul 12 2006, 09:20 AM
QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM)

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...
'tempo stricto' ....
is that an actual term??
Dangermouse
Jul 13 2006, 11:22 PM
Oh yes!
possom
Jul 14 2006, 07:12 AM
QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 04:11 AM)

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...

I agree
janexxx
Jul 14 2006, 07:17 AM
QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM)

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM)

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...
'tempo stricto' ....
is that an actual term??

'Tis now.
pianist_1210
Jul 14 2006, 12:04 PM
QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 07:17 AM)

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM)

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM)

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...
'tempo stricto' ....
is that an actual term??

'Tis now.


Yea...coinage...
better remember myself not to write that in my school music exam...
janexxx
Jul 14 2006, 12:05 PM
QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 14 2006, 01:04 PM)

QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 07:17 AM)

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM)

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM)

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...
'tempo stricto' ....
is that an actual term??

'Tis now.


Yea...coinage...
better remember myself not to write that in my school music exam...

You could always say you'd read it on the ABRSM website
pianist_1210
Jul 14 2006, 12:09 PM
QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 12:05 PM)

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 14 2006, 01:04 PM)

QUOTE(janexxx @ Jul 14 2006, 07:17 AM)

QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:20 AM)

QUOTE(Dangermouse @ Jul 4 2006, 03:11 AM)

I'm still convinced the adoption of 'tempo stricto' would clear up all confusion...
'tempo stricto' ....
is that an actual term??

'Tis now.


Yea...coinage...
better remember myself not to write that in my school music exam...

You could always say you'd read it on the ABRSM website

....yea....
JuliaR
Jul 15 2006, 01:33 PM
QUOTE(Oddball @ Jul 3 2006, 12:02 AM)

Marcato? I think so, I'll double check.
Marcato literally means "marked" as in forced, accented. That's about the only vocabulary I know!
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