pianist_1210
Jul 8 2006, 04:39 AM
jo.clarinet
Jul 8 2006, 05:30 AM
Sorry to hear that
But you weren't all that far off the pass mark, really. If you read the comments sheet carefully and try to act on the things which need improving, it would be worth having another go at it sometime in the future.
How did you do in the Quick Study? If I remember rightly, that was the section you were most worried about.
possom
Jul 8 2006, 07:04 AM
Sorry to hear this :-)
Just remember a lot of people do fail and go on to pass with a much better mark the second time. As jo said, you weren't far off at all, it's worth keeping the pieces going and retaking.
Hope you feel better soon.
Nicia-Clarinet-Flute
Jul 8 2006, 07:06 AM
Oh no, i'm sorry to hear that , i hope it has not let you lose confidence and that you will atempt it again sometime!
katyjay
Jul 8 2006, 07:45 AM
Andy
I'm sorry to hear you didn't get through the diploma this time. And I'm sure you're very disappointed at this.
But there are some positives from it, you know, that you can focus on.
First, you got to being "nearly there" with the diploma in a really quick time - which is really impressive.
Second, as Jo points out, a bit more work will take you from "nearly" to "really" there and you can try again.
Third, when you do try again, you now know what the expectation of the examiners is, and you know how the exam will go, so you will be much more comfortable in the attempt.
So I would say, because you were so close, read the comments carefully and discuss them with your teacher, work on the issues the examiners mention to improve yourself that remaining distance, and have another try.
Finally, one dud result doesn't stop you from being musical and enjoying your music. Go and play something you enjoy and make this the start of a new phase in your playing.
Best wishes
katyjay
pianist_1210
Jul 8 2006, 08:29 AM
QUOTE(jo.clarinet @ Jul 8 2006, 05:30 AM)

How did you do in the Quick Study? If I remember rightly, that was the section you were most worried about.
Unexpectedly, QS is the only sub-section I pass......(i got 8 and the required mark is 6).
in the performance, i got 21 and the required mark is 24, in the viva i got 8 and the required mark is 10.
so I'm really only lacking 5 marks in total to pass everything...

I think it's not fair...i should get a good mark in the viva, and i shouldn't pass QS. It's totally not what I think.
Anyway, I thought of commiting sucicide an hour ago, but now I guess I'll choose to live.
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Jul 8 2006, 08:31 AM
Sorry to hear about that

But all the best for the future, as you were only a few marks away.
Trebor
Jul 8 2006, 10:16 AM
QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 8 2006, 09:29 AM)

Anyway, I thought of commiting sucicide an hour ago, but now I guess I'll choose to live.
mrbouffant
Jul 8 2006, 10:41 AM
Dude: it's gutting I know but stay strong. Take a break from the instrument for a bit, concentrate on other things and then come back in a few months and see how you feel about it. It's like having your heart broken by a boyfriend or girlfriend. Feels like a kick in the stomach, but in time you will recover and look back philosophically on the whole thing.
neil.clarinet
Jul 8 2006, 11:59 AM
Sorry you failed, but tell yourself what I am with my teaching dip. Even if you do fail, you still get a constructive report from two very experienced examiners to give you pointers what can be improved. Look at your mark sheet and see what advice they gave you. And remember at this level your can still enjoy playing the piano to a high standard, go and play some of your favourite pieces to unwind from this and remind yourself why you are playing the piano.
zoda
Jul 8 2006, 12:00 PM
Hard luck Andy
- I have found over time you learn much more about your character from the things you fail at than from the things you succeed at. Don't forget you are first and foremost a person and secondly a musician. If you see things the other way round I doubt you will ever be happy.
Noodelz
Jul 8 2006, 02:01 PM
Sorry to hear that you failed. Don't give up though. Don't forget, you already play the piano to a very high standard. Enjoy it!
JohnS
Jul 8 2006, 06:39 PM
I agree with Zoda.
Early in June I failed my motorbike driving test. I was gutted. Two weeks later, I did it again and passed. I still remember the feeling of how it felt to fail. It's not nice, but most people fail something now and again.
pianist_1210, sorry to hear your bad news. Have been in exactly the same situation so know how guttingly final it feels for the first few days.
carys
Jul 8 2006, 08:42 PM
I am sorry to hear that. Hope you are feeling stronger in a few days.
nannyjay
Jul 8 2006, 10:34 PM
So sorry to hear that Pianist_1210. I know exactly how you feel, as it happened to me many years ago. It feels as though life is not worth living and all the work has been in vain.
As others have said, though, remember that first and foremost you are a musician. Go on and enjoy your music and have another go at the exam later perhaps.
pianist_1210
Jul 9 2006, 06:28 AM
Thankyou all.....*goes off crying...*
I must admit that I have not prepared well for it from the point when I first had the decision to do it.
It's all my fault, and also I was too anorgant that i decide i can do it without any help from a teacher in the short period of only 5 months. But now I knew it, that I was wrong.
However what's over is over now...let us look to the future.
At church I finally see that music is the best gift from God and that I should enjoy playing music, NOT enjoying the achievement I gain from music.
Moreover I just want to say thank you for all of you who helped me.
especially you, mrbouffant.
La_Chopiniste_
Jul 9 2006, 07:31 AM
My dear,
I'm so sorry you failed , but like said before , just take a rest for a while , then try again and retake ...
You were so near , so the next time , at least you will have had some experience and a fine backgraound of how the examination is done...
By the way: NEVER COMMIT SUICIDE
Wish you all the success
Dina
benjaminja
Jul 9 2006, 07:43 AM
Hi pianist_1210,
It can't be nice to have failed but you yourself said you were expecting a fail, I think? Given this, your (allegedly) suicidal reaction seems a bit peculiar.
Congrats on passing the Quick Study! At least when you re-take you won't have to do this part again (now that's a BIG positive!). Perhaps take your time to prepare now. Get a teacher, don't feel you have to do this exam as soon as you possibly can - that's not what it's about. Have another look at your programme notes and see if they can be improved. And remember to read the comments from the examiners! They do provide good pointers. (Mine was full of stuff about intonation errors and it's subsequently something I have really been working on.)
Very best of luck for next time! Remember, it's not the end of the world.
Suepea
Jul 9 2006, 12:13 PM
Commiserations - it must feel particularly hard at the moment when so many successes are being posted. I think you have hit the nail on the head yourself when you say you were probably not adequately prepared. Your pass in the quick study (I envy you that one!) was probably because you had put in more work on that as you knew it was a weak area. Give yourself time to concentrate on the other areas now - and do get a teacher. Teachers pick up on details that you don't notice yourself, and you can't afford to let anything pass when you are aiming at diploma level. A teacher will also discuss interpretation - again, essential at this level - and may suggest ways of playing that you wouldn't have thought of by yourself. Good luck for your re-take!
melody_maker
Jul 9 2006, 07:15 PM
That's a shame you didn't pass, but just remember, you were so close to it! It should makee you more determined to pass next time! The standard you're at is all ready very high, so you're almost there!!
xx
hellokitty
Jul 9 2006, 09:27 PM
Bad luck pianist_1210

Good luck for the future and I wish you the best! x
Regards,
xx Leanne xx Hellokitty xx
pianist_1210
Jul 10 2006, 12:32 AM
When I read the comments by the examiners....
the major error is:
Bach-WTC...the fugue not up to pase?? (what's that mean??

)The parts are not bring out properly....
Schubert sonata 1st mvt: timing problems...

(possibly it's the passage of the triplet versus 2 quaver...), technical difficulties at the RH octave playing....

(i know...i can't help it...my hands are so small.....)
2nd mvt: good
3rd: positive and bright at start but lack confidence later on....
Debussy prelude:Couple of slips there and there...should have more contrast....!?
Viva Voce:They say that I should mention that the Schubert sonata's different forms in each mvt...of which I have analysed and know but didn't write down....
**^-^Steinway & Strings^-^**
Jul 10 2006, 03:33 AM
Oh dear, are you ok?
It's always very sad when failing an exam. Just try harder next time then, don't give up.
off_lady
Jul 10 2006, 03:38 AM
Dear Andy,
Remember the cantonese idiom of "failure is the mother of success". Best wishes for your re-take.
Amie
gummidge
Jul 10 2006, 08:12 AM
Hello Pianist 1210, sorry to hear your news, it's never nice to fail. From recent experience, (failed grade 8) in some ways it's been a good thing. you can have a fresh look at the pieces without the exam being upon you, and the sheet of comments is a useful guide here. I'd forgotten that I was supposed to enjoy the pieces until I failed, and now can sit down and work on them in peace, which is something I didn't think I'd ever do. Good luck next time.
sarah-flute
Jul 10 2006, 12:05 PM
QUOTE(pianist_1210 @ Jul 10 2006, 01:32 AM)

Bach-WTC...the fugue not up to pase?? (what's that mean??

)The parts are not bring out properly....
Pace? Not fast enough, I am guessing...
QUOTE
technical difficulties at the RH octave playing....

(i know...i can't help it...my hands are so small.....)
"I can't help it" is not an excuse at this kind of level - you need to work out a way round the problem, or find material that doesn't give you the problem. "I have small hands" isn't good enough

Take heart, though, after a very short time and, by your own admission underprepared, (you said after the exam you didn't think you would pass) you narrowly missed passing the dip, and passed the quick study, an area that many people find a huge stumbling block. Well done! That's quite an achievement. Work on the areas that have been pointed out to you, and come back to the exam when you can be confident you have a good chance of passing.
Noodelz
Jul 10 2006, 08:09 PM
Judging by what you say and your attempt to kill yourself

, I take it you haven't failed a lot of things. This is a good wake up call albeit a very harsh one. You can't just stroll along and assume that you will pass everything. But you did come very close which is still very impressive. I think that this is a blessing in disguise as they say. No doubt you will learn from this and become a better person (and pianist).
pianist_1210
Jul 18 2006, 07:31 AM
QUOTE(Noodelz @ Jul 10 2006, 08:09 PM)

Judging by what you say and your attempt to kill yourself

, I take it you haven't failed a lot of things. This is a good wake up call albeit a very harsh one. You can't just stroll along and assume that you will pass everything. But you did come very close which is still very impressive. I think that this is a blessing in disguise as they say. No doubt you will learn from this and become a better person (and pianist).
True....in fact, I have never get anything below merit on the piano....
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