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La_Chopiniste_
I've just had another fight with my friends because I'm "more devoted to music "... dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif

I'm so sorry I started a whole new thead about this , but I had these options:
  1. Start a thread
  2. Commit scuicide
  3. Murder my friends
I have to admit that the third option was so tempting , but after rethinking I chose the first , there are no pianos in jail afterall...
nicki_flute
Why do they find it annoying that you like music so much, do you know? I think it is really hard for non musical people to understand why musical people like muisc. Don't worry *hugs* PM me if you want to talk about it smile.gif
Choddy
I'm a bit rubbish at advice, but it seems to me that your friends have no interest in your passion for music, and so they don't seem all that friendly to me. I think you just need to make sure they know that they are important to you, but so is music! It's only fair that they cut you a bit of slack to pursue your musical interests. And starting a thread is much preferable to the other two.

Don't be too down! smile.gif
bohemian
It's their loss. You have music, they don't. I know who I'd rather be smile.gif
Why not invite them to one of your concerts or to a recital? Maybe if they see the results of your time devoted to practice, they will understand better why you spend so long on it.
La_Chopiniste_
O , thank you guys *hugs*
QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Aug 27 2006, 04:30 PM) *

I think it is really hard for non musical people to understand why musical people like muisc. Don't worry *hugs* PM me if you want to talk about it smile.gif

It is hard for them to understand so ...
Thank you *hugs*

QUOTE(Choddy @ Aug 27 2006, 04:33 PM) *

but it seems to me that your friends have no interest in your passion for music, and so they don't seem all that friendly to me. . And starting a thread is much preferable to the other two.
Don't be too down! smile.gif


I've begun to think so too... And , you're not rubbish in advice.
Thank you *hugs*

QUOTE(bohemian @ Aug 27 2006, 04:34 PM) *

It's their loss. You have music, they don't. I know who I'd rather be smile.gif
Why not invite them to one of your concerts or to a recital? Maybe if they see the results of your time devoted to practice, they will understand better why you spend so long on it.


I've invited them to many cocerts before , they are happy afterward but they think that one hour a week practicing is quite enough..
Thank you * hugs*
violin-ann
Sorry to hear that Chopin, yes it can be hard being musical. Neither can some of my friends understand my passion for music, but they know better than to say more than 'What????!!" when I told them I spent $3000 (my currency) for a violin. laugh.gif

I'm not happy with my student's parent at the moment! She is so insistant on a replacement because her darling daughter is taking 3 tests for 3 subjects tomorrow that she cannot do her lesson and I couldn't out talk her on this mad.gif In the end I had to give in but I said I don't know when the replacement will be because I'm very busy. sad.gif sad.gif But I'm still too wired up to sleep. Gaah!
sarah-flute
*hugs*
violin-ann
*Hugs* Chopin too.


*Thinks:- why are some people so bull-headed*
La_Chopiniste_
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Aug 27 2006, 04:53 PM) *

*hugs*

Thanks ...

QUOTE(violin-ann @ Aug 27 2006, 04:54 PM) *

*Hugs* Chopin too.


Thank you.

QUOTE
*Thinks:- why are some people so bull-headed*


The same question is in my mind...

crazy_purple_piano_freak
*sprays happifying mist and hug-generating mist* smile.gif

It sounds like your friends are being a bit overpossesive...unsure.gif Surely they have hobbies and passions of their own, and can understand why music is important to you? They can't really expect you to give up music and spend all your time with them 24/7! Ok, friends are there for life...but so is music...

Feel free to pm me if you ever want to talk Dina smile.gif
*sprays more hug mist*
Tess
*hugs* Hope you will find more friends in the future who loves music on this forum and elsewhere. I guess friends are meant to support one another. So if they could not support, perhaps it's a safer bet to discard rather than murder them.
Rosemary7391
A true friend would understand your passion for music. A lot of my friends are now musical, because those who were not simply could not understand me. Perhaps it is just something that non musicians cannot understand?
violin-ann
I think so too. The more I got into music, I found that I only have more and more musical friends! laugh.gif But I still have a handful of very good normal friends.
SaxFan
I'd like to know what your 'friends' do as hobbies/interests etc. someone else suggested a similar question, CPPF wasn't it?
I guess they don't have passions like you have your music! And paraphrasing Bohemian - I know who I would rather have as a friend... yeah! Sounds to me that you are the special one, and they should feel lucky to have you as a friend.

PM if you want .. but stick with it. It's a tough one, because it's to do with perceptions and image and self esteem etc etc. Or is that just making it too deep and complicated smile.gif

La_Chopiniste_
Thank you all...
I really feel much much better today, and you've all helped me -really , no exceptions-

This experience made me aware that I should be more carefull in choosing friends , in the future , and in fact it made me love music more and more...
And thanks God I still have some TRUE friends , and you guys are definitly from them.

*hugs everyone*

Thank you again,
Dina .
smile.gif
violin-ann
You're welcome anytime! I guess in our countries, music is seen as something 'trivial' or something you only do as a pastime and not something you should get so serious about. Although that is beginning to change a lot here. Now almost every parent sends their kids to music class. Or art at least, if they can't afford music.
La_Chopiniste_
QUOTE(violin-ann @ Aug 28 2006, 03:04 PM) *

You're welcome anytime! I guess in our countries, music is seen as something 'trivial' or something you only do as a pastime and not something you should get so serious about.


Exactly , Ann ..
This is exactly what I'm suffering from here.
violin-ann
I'm sure if you could continue to study music, you can make many more musically inclined friends who will understand you and your passion. smile.gif

My violin teacher once said that he was made to study IT after graduating from secondary school because his parents thought it was a waste of money continuing his violin studies. But once he began working, he went ahead and continued to learn part-time with his own money, and then he came back, performed at weddings and receptions and taught as well, and now no-one objects to his choice of career. smile.gif
La_Chopiniste_
Yes.. I've just been able to persuade my parents that I won't see myself in any feild but music..
And they've finally approved of going to music college even outside Egypt , because here the chaces are not so many..
violin-ann
That's great, Dina! Something to look forward to. Very soon you'll have all the musical friends you want. I think you have another year more before you go to music college, isn't it?
La_Chopiniste_
No , I have two years to go at school here , then apply for a college rolleyes.gif
violin-ann
Well it'll come soon enough, trust me. Just busy yourself and before you know it, the two years' are up!
I can't believe how 4 years have passed since I took up the violin.
nicki_flute
Honestly it does go quickly. I can't believe I'll be going to university NEXT year! Since I was year 10 (14/15ish) things have gone in a flash!
La_Chopiniste_
Quite agree , the past few years passed like a flash!
Rainbow
Hi, hope you're feeling better now. It just sounds like your friends don't have a 'passion' like yours and are a bit jealous. Don't worry about it, and maybe try to spend some time with your musical friends.

PM me if you want to talk.
crazy cow
I'm very lucky in that the majority of my friends are musical or are interested in music, but I still get quite a few who look at me in a crazy way with the 'you take your flute on holiday with you?!?!' thing... there are a lot of people who pursue music as a hobby rather than a future career, so I also had a few weird looks and the 'why on earth do you want to do grade 8?' (erm, I need it to get on a music course...)
I'm not too great at advice, but they have to understand that this is your hobby - if music is what you want to do then that's your choice not theirs! Could you get involved with any music groups or anything to enable you to meet some like minded people? Although 'normal' people are lovely, it's great being able to talk about music without the blank looks whenever you mention Debussy, Satie, Scarlatti etc. and the 'what a freak' looks when you mention Beethoven or Mozart. If there's any chance of going on a music residential course you should go for it - they're absolutely fab and I've met some really lovely people on them!
Anyway sorry for my rambling, hope my incoherent mumbling was of some use. I'm sure someone will be able to come along and write what I've said in all this space in about 2 lines... wink.gif
Dulciana
I have a memory from early childhood that really sticks in my head. As a piano-beginner, I went for lessons with a neighbour. We couldn't afford a piano of our own, so it was arranged that I could go to his house to practise for a while every day. I eventually got my own piano, and couldn't leave it alone when I did, but the other kids that I played with on the street really resented the fact that I said I wasn't coming out to play because I wanted to play my piano. For a long time I was torn, and actually closed the curtains so that they couldn't see that I was at the piano, but I realise now that they were jealous - and that isn't just something that it suits me to say. Peer pressure is what causes lots of people to give up - it's an issue with my son at the minute - I'm sure you're well past that stage, Dina, but be quietly assertive and explain that "this time is for me, and I'll see you such-and-such a time".
SaxFan
QUOTE(crazy cow @ Aug 30 2006, 09:13 PM) *

If there's any chance of going on a music residential course you should go for it - they're absolutely fab and I've met some really lovely people on them!





absolutely agree with that CC... residential/summer school - I have met some lovely people too. And while you are there it's just music, whatever your instrument is.
And swap emails and you keep in touch with people...
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