im not a trombone player but i jsut wondered which clef do trombone teachers use to teach? treble or bass?

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actually, its nearly always treble clef in brass bands and bass in most other cases,correct me if i'm wrong! trombonists use tenor clef when it gets stupidly high on ledger lines in the bass clef.

QUOTE (LullyEuph @ Jul 6 2004, 09:46 PM)

actually, its nearly always treble clef in brass bands and bass in most other cases,correct me if i'm wrong! trombonists use tenor clef when it gets stupidly high on ledger lines in the bass clef.

Ah. I feel embarassed now!

I would normally teach trombone in bass clef as most music services insist on this. However if a pupil is associated with brass bands then I will teach in treble clef.

It took some getting used to especially with brass groups that include tenor and french horns (Eb & F). But if you explain the concept of concert pitch from an early stage then it can save time.

A trombone can get up to a Bb, 4 ledger lines above the bass clef. It not difficult to read when you are used to it. The same is for bass trombone which can play anything down to 4 ledger lines below the bass clef stave.

If you intend to play trombone beyond school education it is really useful to learn the 4 clefs that are used by the trombone, Bass, Tenor, Treble and if you are going to do any serious orchestral work Alto. You can of course get by just learning Bass and Treble.

QUOTE (DavidMusic @ Jul 6 2004, 09:07 PM)

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someone who plays trombone in school says he reads treble clef in C and bass clef in Bb. I've been curious for ages, so can someone tell me why?!

QUOTE (elmo @ Jul 10 2004, 02:31 PM)

someone who plays trombone in school says he reads treble clef in C and bass clef in Bb. I've been curious for ages, so can someone tell me why?!

I think you mean Bb in treble Clef and C in Bass Clef.

what does that mean? im curious about this instrument!!!

QUOTE (TenorClef @ Jul 10 2004, 03:08 PM)

QUOTE (elmo @ Jul 10 2004, 02:31 PM) someone who plays trombone in school says he reads treble clef in C and bass clef in Bb. I've been curious for ages, so can someone tell me why?! I think you mean Bb in treble Clef and C in Bass Clef.

Yeah I mean that! Why's it like that though, my friend plays tuba, and she was trying to explain, but I still didn't get it!
clarinetlover: I'm curious as to why he has to change key depending on clefs!
It's probably a simple answer, but its been annoying me for ages, so can someone tell me why?!

i havent got a faintest idea!

i think most trombone's are in Bb so when they play C it sounds Bb(like the clarinet and trumpet)so maybe its easier to play in different keys in different clefs. ill shut up now coz i dont know what im talking about, im waffling a load of rubbish!

Lol! No its not like that at all. When most trombones play Bb, thats exactly what it is Bb. The trombone is perhaps one of the few brass instruments to be written in concert pitch. However, not so in the world of brass band music. Trombones read treble clef in brass band music and then as all the other instruments are Bb(or Eb) transposing instruments they have to follow suit. This means that as the trumpet plays C but sounds Bb the trombone music also has the annoyance of following suit. Its crazy, its tradition and here to stay. I've never liked it but had to learn it for the very rare occasion that i played in a brass band. It also comes in handy to know if you teach too!

0hhhhh right!! I get it now, thanks!

y do we have different clefs? i play french horn. aperantley horns can play accross 6 otaves (tell me if im wrong) i guess it will go into bass clef. i suppose i can get my sister who plays trombone to teach me as im tauht in treble clef. the only thing is my sis is younger than me!

i think its 4 octaves actually, but im sure someone like Pip Estop could get 5 if he really wanted to!

QUOTE (frenchyhorn @ Jul 15 2004, 04:26 PM)

y do we have different clefs?

To avoid leger lines, obviously.

Not that jazz trombonists mind, it usually just drives them made if they have to read treble or tenor clef, as they've practiced to play up to about five leger lines in bass clef!