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ben_walker446
Hey, I thought I would start a thread asking people to think about INTERESTING musical discussions that anyone can join in, and starting a thread for them.

Remember, Interesting wink.gif

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Get those Brains going people tongue.gif
chocolatedog
Hmmmmmm *thinks*..............*thinks some more* ...............interesting eh?............*goes off muttering "interesting? Interesting? interesting???????????"*
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Manek
Ermmm...


Why do guitars have six strings?
jazzfan
QUOTE(Manek @ Oct 7 2006, 10:44 AM) *

Why do guitars have six strings?

I don't think I know that joke... Go on, then - why DO guitars have six strings? tongue.gif laugh.gif
maggiemay
sorry I have no idea.

Why is plainsong traditionally written on a four-line stave?
Manek
QUOTE(jazzfan @ Oct 7 2006, 11:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Manek @ Oct 7 2006, 10:44 AM) *

Why do guitars have six strings?

I don't think I know that joke... Go on, then - why DO guitars have six strings? tongue.gif laugh.gif


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It was a serious question...!



If you want some guitarist jokes, I can easily post some! We (ie. drummers) have these at the ready in order to counter the fairly inevitable "drummer jokes" which we always encounter!
jazzfan
QUOTE(Manek @ Oct 7 2006, 11:41 AM) *

QUOTE(jazzfan @ Oct 7 2006, 11:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Manek @ Oct 7 2006, 10:44 AM) *

Why do guitars have six strings?

I don't think I know that joke... Go on, then - why DO guitars have six strings? tongue.gif laugh.gif

ph34r.gif
It was a serious question...!

Yes, I'm afraid I was just being flippant ph34r.gif Sorry!
Manek
Lol... 'tis OK!
Dulciana
QUOTE(maggiemay @ Oct 7 2006, 11:38 AM) *

sorry I have no idea.

Why is plainsong traditionally written on a four-line stave?

sorry I have no idea.

Why is a minim called a minim?
possom
I have one that's been bugging me for years.

Why do some people find sharps easier to remember and some people flats? I'm sure it's something to do about sides of the brain and there's a phd psychology thesis in there somewhere, but would be interested in people's thoughts.

BTW I find flats easier smile.gif
iona
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mwl1
I'm thinking, but coming to no conclusion.
jazzfan
QUOTE(Dulciana @ Oct 7 2006, 12:50 PM) *

Why is a minim called a minim?

This is my understanding:

By the end of the 13th century, there were 5 signs to represent musical notation, and these were written in black. They were known as:

Maxim (maxima = greatest)
Long (longa = long)
Breve (brevis = short)
Semibreve (semibrevis - half short)
Minim (minima = least)

By the beginning of the 15th century, new symbols were established to represent these notes, and they were changed to white.

Eventually the minim was split up into smaller values (which became the new black tongue.gif ), thus losing the connection between its name and its position as the note of least value.


PS This topic would have been an ideal one to go in the new THEORY FORUM which the mods are considering giving us. If you would like a Theory Forum and haven't already signed the petition, please go to "Theory Forum - please may we have one" in the General Music Forum!
maggiemay
and really just depended on what needed to be indicated

I think you got it there, Iona - a four line-stave is all that's needed.

Jazzfan - that's fascinating, and makes a lot of sense!

I've often wondered why a quaver is a croche in French, though, (was it Kerioboe who reminded me / us of that the other day??)
jazzfan
QUOTE(maggiemay @ Oct 7 2006, 03:05 PM) *

Jazzfan - that's fascinating, and makes a lot of sense!

I've often wondered why a quaver is a croche in French, though, (was it Kerioboe who reminded me / us of that the other day??)

The same source I used to explain "minim" also explains the quaver/croche thing. But I have to go out now - will post later smile.gif
chocolatedog
QUOTE(iona @ Oct 7 2006, 01:23 PM) *

Hi MaggieMay

You have to take a look at the history/evolution of the Western notation system to answer that one. I'm no authority. In fact this was a course I was hoping to take this year...but it was cancelled. Anyway my limited understanding is as follows:(In a nutshell)


Originally word setting didn’t have any notation and song was taught by rote. Then they needed to add some visual indication which led to the development of neumes (signs placed above the text) – just really as an indication of whether the voice was to move up or down a bit (rather like grave/acute accents in French) . Then it was thought that a more precise way of indicating intervals would be desirable and an alphabetic notation system in conjunction with a set of lines (very primitive looking in comparison with today) was invented by a monk in Flanders. That was in the C9th/C10th . It didn't last long. There were numerous theories and systems floating around at the time, and the one that seems to have formed the basis of the stave system today is associated with a chap called Guido D’Arrezzo. His idea, or at least a system which bears some similarity to the one we use today was standardised in the C13th. It seemed to be flexible for quite a while though, and really just depended on what needed to be indicated and to whom (what size of choir for example).
Fascinating stuff. But as I say.....I know very little about it.

Iona


I've got postcards of old manuscripts which have just a single line with a letter F beside it, and notes were simply placed at various distances either side of the line.
jazzfan
QUOTE(jazzfan @ Oct 7 2006, 03:31 PM) *

QUOTE(maggiemay @ Oct 7 2006, 03:05 PM) *

Jazzfan - that's fascinating, and makes a lot of sense!

I've often wondered why a quaver is a croche in French, though, (was it Kerioboe who reminded me / us of that the other day??)

The same source I used to explain "minim" also explains the quaver/croche thing. But I have to go out now - will post later smile.gif


I've started a new thread "Why is a minim called a minim" to carry on explaining about quavers/crotchets. Thanks ben walker446 for starting this thread - hope I've redeemed myself for not taking it seriously earlier in the thread biggrin.gif
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