any advice???Soph
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HELP!!! Am meant to be playin part one for orchestra at school and it is soooo hard. The piece is Troika and it never gets any easier!! I think I need part 4 any advice???
Soph
any advice???Soph
Firstly study the music - By this I mean look at the points where you play and don't play. Look at different sections where fingering is difficult or it is too fast. Look at any repeats and identify different sections of the piece and try and get an idea of the form.
Go through your part by clapping the rhytms to at least get and idea.
On any fast bits where you cannot play up to speed then PLAY SLOWLY. Until you can play it at a slow speed with no mistakes don't speed it up. Once you can play it fine then GRADUALLY speed it up
If there are any notes that you do not know the fingering for then go away and look for the fingering.
You could perhaps take the music to you lesson and work on the most challenging parts with your teacher.
Hope this Helps
Go through your part by clapping the rhytms to at least get and idea.
On any fast bits where you cannot play up to speed then PLAY SLOWLY. Until you can play it at a slow speed with no mistakes don't speed it up. Once you can play it fine then GRADUALLY speed it up
If there are any notes that you do not know the fingering for then go away and look for the fingering.
You could perhaps take the music to you lesson and work on the most challenging parts with your teacher.
Hope this Helps
Is that the Troika from the Lieutenant Kije suite? (the Christmassy one?)
Do you know which arrangement it is (who publishes it)? It sounds like a flexible ensemble piece, as you mention part 1 and 4. In four part flexible ensembles, part 4 is usually a bass part, part 3 more often than not is an easier clarinet part (as well as other instruments)- I'm assuming you're playing clari.
Do you know which arrangement it is (who publishes it)? It sounds like a flexible ensemble piece, as you mention part 1 and 4. In four part flexible ensembles, part 4 is usually a bass part, part 3 more often than not is an easier clarinet part (as well as other instruments)- I'm assuming you're playing clari.
If I were you, I'd just break it down a bit...
Leave out all the unnecessary bits (trills and frills and things) and concentrate on bring the tune out... Part One is usually the melody line, so as long as you're making the tune sing out nice and clear above the rest of them, you're doing your job well!
Leave out all the unnecessary bits (trills and frills and things) and concentrate on bring the tune out... Part One is usually the melody line, so as long as you're making the tune sing out nice and clear above the rest of them, you're doing your job well!
QUOTE(barry-clari @ Oct 11 2006, 08:10 PM) 
Is that the Troika from the Lieutenant Kije suite? (the Christmassy one?)
Do you know which arrangement it is (who publishes it)? It sounds like a flexible ensemble piece, as you mention part 1 and 4. In four part flexible ensembles, part 4 is usually a bass part, part 3 more often than not is an easier clarinet part (as well as other instruments)- I'm assuming you're playing clari.
Yes it is the clarinet. Thankyou for your reply, I will try and find out who it is by. It is the christmassy one.
Soph
QUOTE(ben_walker446 @ Oct 11 2006, 08:08 PM)
Firstly study the music - By this I mean look at the points where you play and don't play. Look at different sections where fingering is difficult or it is too fast. Look at any repeats and identify different sections of the piece and try and get an idea of the form.
Go through your part by clapping the rhytms to at least get and idea.
On any fast bits where you cannot play up to speed then PLAY SLOWLY. Until you can play it at a slow speed with no mistakes don't speed it up. Once you can play it fine then GRADUALLY speed it up
If there are any notes that you do not know the fingering for then go away and look for the fingering.
You could perhaps take the music to you lesson and work on the most challenging parts with your teacher.
Hope this Helps
Thanks Ben didnt know that you were into giving advice??
I like that piece. Mind you, I like most Prokofiev!
Do go through the piece very carefully in your practice time - look at the tricky bits at a slightly slower tempo to get used to them, and gradually speed them up - and do get your teacher to help you.
Good luck!
Do go through the piece very carefully in your practice time - look at the tricky bits at a slightly slower tempo to get used to them, and gradually speed them up - and do get your teacher to help you.
Good luck!
He's not... Normally he's pretty grumpy...
It's just coz you're new here!
It's just coz you're new here!
Thanks for all yuor replies i like lieutenant kije as part of it is used in 'Russians' by Sting who is my all time favourite singer thanks to my Dad. Thanyou for all the advice.
Soph
Soph
Yeah - Sting is brilliant!
QUOTE(Manek @ Oct 11 2006, 08:55 PM)
Yeah - Sting is brilliant!
He is I saw him in Birmingham on his Brand new day tour in 2000. Although i am not to sure about his 16th century lute album. What do you think? Do you have a favourite song? I like every breath you take and brand new day. I also like Pet Shop Boys and Erasure. Along with a few more modern groups but not many.
Soph
If you are still looking for advice, I would say to practice it section by section, and to play it all at a slow speed and then gradually increase (this is what I used to do when playing the clarinet). Also, I found it very useful to play phrases backwards because then when you play it forwards it seems a lot easier...kind of like tricking your brain!! Take it along to your music lessons if you can and ask your teacher for advice if this is at all possible.
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