QUOTE(mattrattley @ Jan 2 2007, 11:20 AM)
i haven't flexed my arguing muscles for a while... and besides, i'm having fun
yes, a flute does use alot of air, but the air that gets into the instrument instantly produces a sound. the other three have a middle man - the reed - and so the air has to get the reed going, which then produces the sound. this isn't necessarily any slower - what is slower is getting a reed to change from one vibration to another (ie a change of note) - something a flute doesn't have to worry about.
my teacher's told me that boehm tried to make a bassoon with his idealistic fingering layout but it sounded horrendous and so he gave up. apparently the oboe didn't fare too well either - something about cross-fingerings not working very well...?
and the contrabassoon is brilliant! what's the problem with it? you can't help but smile when it's playing - we did a bit of tchaikovsky (valse des fleurs i think) and playing the little "did-dl-y-dum-dum" bits on a contra was great. ok, it sounded ridiculous - but that's all part of its charm
... no match for the contra, but hey, it's better than a piccolo... *runs away*
You had better be careful i spend most of my free time at bands arguing about this kind of thing and i always win (despite what the violin section might say).
I think your terminology might be slightly confused air often gets into a flute and produces no sound it is only when that air is channeled through the lungs, mouth and then the instrument itself that a sound is produced.
the elusive 'middle man' you are searching for is actually present in the flute with the air stream being directed at one side of the mouthpiece which then directs the air into the instrument (infinitely more sensible than a reed IMHO). I was also under the impression that taking more breaths than other instruments would also slow response which would be true of the flute compared to bassoon, oboe and the rest but i might be wrong on that, although i rather doubt it.
Unless my memory is completely failing me Boehm was a flautist as a result he probably did not have a full understanding of the bassoon hence it is no wonder his experiment was not as sucessful as his flute.
Besides which are there no bassoon-playing people interested enough in it to have a go?(with the bassoon perhaps not
Or are you just waiting for bored flautists with a lot of free time on their hands to do it for you?
A better question would be what isn't wrong with it. For example it spends the vast majority of time in a stand only playing in two out of every few thousand bars (if that), when it is played it is seldom heard in the orchestral melee and the few times that it is heard it sounds completely daft.
As to your musical example the segments you refer to sound far better played on a clarinet or sax, with the flute on the top part playing all the melody of course
What is it with bassoon players and high instruments? - probably some sort of repressed desire thing where you all actually want to be flute players
"on woodwind they found that it was more difficult than they expected to get all the notes out - but once they could play all the notes, got used to breathing properly etc. things like vibrato came naturally, and getting really good on the wind instrument was easier for them."
I'm glad you find it so easy, I look forward to seeing you appear as the Sir James of the bassoon soon.
You really need to be careful with subjective terms like 'really good' i mean what in one moment sounds really good might sound absolutely dreadful compared to another recording etc.
As to getting the notes on stringed instruments being easy you might want to retract it before one of them starts talking about positions - something we can all do without - even if it has been the source of thousands of excellent jokes
Back on topic percussion would probably be a good compromise i don't think even the most severe conductors insist on you taking the timpani home for practice
. As Matt said its up to you but you really need to think about what will give you the best chance of getting into music college and that would probably being doing extra practice on your main instrument(s) if you have that much free time.
Can i also take this moment to agree in principal with the Conciliation Department of the All Musicians Are Equally Wonderful Association although i reserve the right to withdraw this support if confronted at a later date by a suitably interesting argument (or just the next school band rehersal).
P.S. Matt if you are going to continue you only have two sections left to insult before you've got the whole set
QUOTE(Morgan's Munchkin @ Jan 3 2007, 12:16 AM)
The only reason flutes can play fast stuff easier is because they are able to double/triple tongue it without too many problems. However you have to send months learning to double/triple tongue in the first place, cos believe me - it's not easy!!
Also, you say we have the smallest air column, but have you considered that the flute takes quite a bit more air than some instruments because half of it is lost over the top of the instrument.
Glad someone else sees sense no suprise that its another flautist though
. It actually takes more air than any other instrument including the tuba - fascinating facts to annoy music playing friends for flautists vol. 1 (at all good bookstores soon!!