*bows*

I'm in the club..........so to speak.
Beverley. Pure Worcestershire with a little bit of Black Country thrown in.

Aha ! I grew up not far from Brum - almost the heart of the black country. Mu mum used to get cross if people said "oh yoo cum from Brum do' ya?" because we were actually quite a little way north. ..

Having lived in the west country, London area and overseas I think I've lost most of it - but it still sounds like "home" if I hear it.

Lixandreth ! Mo chara! Am bheil sibh a'tuigsinn Gàidhlig? Tha mi toilichte!

Didn't know we had speakers on the board - that's very cool. (adopts advert style voice)... Scots Gaelic, possibly the coolest language in the world.

Allan

*envies the Gaelic speakers......*

Ah ye will... go on, you know you want to learn it (one more tiny little language won't hurt, go on - it's just a wafter thin one...)

Allan
(cackle...)

You BAD French person one wafer thin language later and I shall explode all over the restaurant forum, as you well know!

Strangely enough I was trying to explain the "waffferr" thin mint sketch to my mum yesterday. It doesn't work when I tell 'em....

It's an excellent sketch, isn't it?

You could just try adding a little gaidhlig to your signature... you have a couple of languages kicking around in there already, surely there's room for one more (sniggers knowing that one word will be all it takes to get her hooked)

Allan
(who deals languages from the kitchen of his flat... first one's free)

*hits Allan with a frozen trout*

Bad, naughty, EVIL French person you...........

A frozen trout? Well,... I've just translated that into French and realised it sounds hilarious!

Go on, admit it, you're dying to know how to say trout in gaelic, right...

!בן אדם רע

Bless you!

...אהבל

féach ar sin!
(I just had to slip in some Irish!)

Cool !!!!

Ohhh! Pretty. A new language (it looks very similar to scots gaelic, to be honest).

Say more things in Irish!

chun an fhírinne a rá, ní maith liom Gaeilge mar cuireann na múinteoirí sa scoil brú mór ar na daltaí agus bíonn orainn scéalta agus comhráite a scríobh chun an Teasta Sóisearach Ardlibhéal.

did you like that?
(although if my Irish teacher saw that, she would have some things to say about the grammar...)

I have only a vague clue of what a few of those words might mean, but o! it's pretty............

Maith an chailín!!!

Tuigim nach dtaitníonn an scoil go mór leat!!! Níl an Teastas Sóisearach ró-dhona. Go n'éirigh an t-ádh leat!!

Slán!

go raibh maith agat! ach nílim ach sa dara bliain anois, agus tá t-am agam fós!

Sea - tá móran ama fágtha leat fós! An bhfuil tú líofa sa Ghaeilge mar tá gaeilge maithe agat do dhuine nach bhfuil ach sa dara bliain.

nílim, ach tá súil ag mo mhúinteoir go mbeadh gach duine i mo rang ag dul go dtí an Ghaeltacht i rith an tsamhraidh! ní bheidh mé ag dul (buíochas le Dia!)

(is it really sad that I savour being in the midst of a conversation I can't understand in the slightest degree...??? )

Cén fáth nach bhfuil tú ag dul - bhainfeá tú an-sult as!!!

Nope that's a good thing! I'm enjoying it immensely, although to my scots accustomed eyes, a lot of it looks really wierd - there's about 30 percent that I can't understand too!

Tha an cànanan na gàidhealdachd math gu dearbh - tha mi a'cluinntinn ceòl brèagha an-drasta!

well, it just seems like a lot of work, and I can't get used to different dialects
(i cant type any more irish - to much work at this time! )

Is that supposed to make me feel that it's less crazy...???



*grins, ducks and runs*

Right floot - you're for it!

*grabs interesting looking new instrument, dictionaries for several interesting languages and an alto floot and runs after floot shouting "just hold them for a second, what harm could a second do?"...*

ROFL, you know her too well .

LOL - I'm just striking a revenge coup for all of humanity!

You wouldn't think we'd never even met, would you...

Allan's just annoyed because he hasn't managed to totally flummox me with Gaelic... yet....

*runs away again!!!*


Liar, it's personal revenge and you know it

Sarah-flute I hope you enjoyed trying to figure out the words!

That's very true actually! A downpour of PM's in Scottish gaelic have been met with pretty darn good approximate translations which floot apparently found on the internet. I, however, was unable to translate any of her Hebrew messages (hangs unworthy linguist head in shame).

Still, we all know she's from Lewis, really... Sarah? I bet her real name is Morag Flootach.

There. Consider it coined. Hallo a Mhorag...

I didn't even TRY tonight, OG - I will definitely have a revel in all the lovely gaelic-ness at a later date though


*punches air, triumphant!* mind you, no wonder my brain is now mush.........




*goes to edit sig AGAIN....*

Good!

I like virtually every accent of English in different ways. For example, a strong Essex accent is quite entertaining, while a smooth Irish accent is very relaxing. However, I cannot stand the 'Educated American' accent. Don't know why, it just really grates on me.

To be pedantic- you're actually talking about dialects.

Accents are how a foreign language person speaks English

If I speak perfectly grammatical English but with a Welsh accent that is surely not the same thing as if I were to use phrases that would not be considered to be standard English. If I were to say, for example, "Please can you keep your books for me now" that would be dialect. (Keep your books actually would mean to put one's books away in the correct place!)

Hmm, yes - I'm no linguist but surely accent and dialect are not the same thing??

Translate into your own dialect:-

1.Flippin' 'eck, that yon fella ower theear, 'is so blumming lucky, if he fell in t'middin 'id cum aht smellin' o roses.
2. Nah stop thi laiking abaht in them dubs, thall get thi feet wet, and ahll reight skelp thee, and wi ye kecks dahn.

(from 'Learn thissen Yorkshire')

haha - nice !

ok I'll have a go at no 2 - not sure what dubs are so guessing that bit -


2) you stop messin' about in them ?puddles?, or yer'll get yer feet wet and then I'll give ya a good -'iding.

(not one dialect in my case as I've lived in too many places I'm afraid, it's bound to be a mixture.

Nope, not really. Accent is about vowel production and prosodic variation - this is not the same as dialect which implies syntactic, lexical, pragmatic and sometimes semantic deviation from an imagined norm.

The question is not clear cut, however, and it's quite difficult to isolate just the accent from the dialect as the two often go hand in hand - but accent is merely a part of dialect and not at all the same thing.

We also use the term accent to refer to foreign spoken English, but again only as a part of the dialectal whole (if we want to be truly pedantic, we may consider French accented English to be part of a loose French dialect of English...)

So accent is not the same as dialect when we refer to native speakers, nor is it a term reserved only for foreign speakers.

Ew boy, d'you see that daft article over by there. E's so up top that it'd be open tap for 'im at three of a mornin'

And that's South rather than North Wales. I may add a North version later.

1. Jeez-o. See him? If he fell in a pile uv sh*te he'd come up smellin uv roses.
2. Get oot that puddle or ah'll murder ye!

^ wot he sed

OK well the proper answers are:-

Dear me , that man over there, he is so very lucky, that if he fell in the toilet, he would come out smelling of roses.

Now you just stop playing about in those puddles, or you will get your feet wet, and I will give you a severe spanking, and with your pants down.

I would just like to relate story my father in law (not a Yorkshireman but from Suffolk) tells when he was in the army.One of his mates was , however from Bradford.
At parade, this mate was pulled up at parade.

Sergeant Major: You, two steps forward, what is your name?
Reply: 'Arrison , sir
SM: Oh yes 'arrison, and 'ow do you spell that , 'arrison ?
Reply; Sir, a haitch, a hay , two har's , a hi, a hess , a ho and a hen, Sir!