It's only been a week since my student sat her exam but I WANT THE RESULTS NOW!

Its on the list for the FRSM (I think)

Sometimes pieces are listed simultaneously at different levels (e.g. Shostakivich Prelude and Fugue no 7 in A, currently listed at both grade 8 and either diploma or LRSM, I forget exactly): Presumably at the higher level you are expected to do a lot more with the same material.

In other words, there is more to music than just hitting the keys, but then we all knew that already - didn't we?

I'm fairly sure I did Traumerei at Grade 5 (in 1973)

Chopins Etudes Op 10 & 25 are listed at LRSM

Liebestraum No 2 (Seliger Tod) is listed at Dip, No 3 (O Lieb) is the famous one, not currently listed but I would guess about the same.

Most Beethoven Sonatas are (allegedly) easier to play if you don't get the Craxton Edition (sacrilege, it's the AB edition!)

As for grade 8+, my piano teacher tells me that grade 8 is where the concert repertoire really starts.

That's why I didn't find it too hard!

It's in the Piano grade 7 list 2007/8 though.

Does that mean that the grade 6-quite-a-few-years-ago standard Sonatinas I can play are realy grade 7 standard now?
(I thought this because when my family went to find a new piano, there was a old grade 6 piano exam repertoire book, and I can't remember what year it was for, but It had a sonatina in it which I would think would be classed as grade 7 now.)

2 things: First, yes I do think the grades may be easier than they once were, but second, I've been thinking about this and I'm sorry to say I was wrong in a way: Here's why.

I did "Gluckes Genug" (translated in the grade V book list B for 1973 as "Contentment") for grade 5. I enjoyed it so much that on my teachers advice we bought the whole of Kinderszenen und Album Fur Die Jungend (Op 15 & 68) and worked through quite a few of the pieces, including Traumerei (many of which I can still play)! So, I did it when I was grade 5 but not for grade 5. For what it's worth I think it's easier than Gluckes Genug anyway!

the grade 7 giga was a grade six piece years and years ago but they've put ornaments in

I want my clarinet and piano results NOW! (It's only been 4 days ) I'm a very impatient person, especially with music results!

Mine didn't take too long - a fortnight and a day, including the bank holiday weekend! So I hope yours won't be too long arriving... you have my sympathy though!

I hope so too! Thanks for the sympathy! I don't care what I get, if I just manage to pass it then I will be the happiest person in the world!!! It's usually about three weeks that I have to wait! It seems so long...

Good luck!

burgmuller arabesque id say grade one

it was one of last years G2 listings... i think its fairly simple though to be honest, i can play that and im not grade one, yet but i s'pose different people can learn things easier than others..

Phantom of the opera overture G4

Nothing useful to contribute, but this was a great idea for a thread Rock Star Guy. Fascinating reading, and really useful. Thanks for starting it off and keeping it updated!

I use to use the burmuller book of 25 studies. I like the pieces, and I play them now and then.

Hi lizbun

liked your New Orleans, you got a good jazzy-feeling bit in the middle, better than other people I've heard.
Didn't listen to the other ones yet.

Really useful, thank you for posting this.

Dame Myra Hess' arrangement of Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring is way above Grade 8, played correctly Dinu Lipatti is reputed to have taken two years to perfect this before playing it live. I can play the first page, but it is incredibly difficult to get the legato beautiful.

Edward

Agreed! Well done. But ya know that it's really really slow - check the metronome marks!!! I played it fast and then looked and was very pleased because it made it even easier

New Orleans nightfall - Great piece!! You seem very talented.

thanks


I'm learning Dr.Gradus Ad Parnussum(no idea how to spell it) by Debussy

It's on the g8 trinity list, but I think it's grade 7.

i'm back

welcome back!

aw thanks that made me feel good

quite welcome!

bump! added bach inventions

i agree... i can already play this piece well when i'm learning grade 7... and i sort of dont think this is a grade 8 standard piece...

ShArOn

Have anyone ever played "Pavane pour une Infante defunte"?
I want to play some Ravel's pieces and it seems that this is one of the easier one. What is its grade?

Grade 6
Root Beer Rag - Billy Joel

Ok I made a lot of additions to Grade 6+7 in accordance with other current threads... I also bumped Claire De Lune down a grade in accordance with popular demand (hehehe I'm a man of the people after all!)

Any chance of making this a sticky?

to add to the disputes..... Is Chopins prelude in Db (often referred to as the Raindrop prelude) really grade 7? I mean I know it's too long for a grade 6 piece but in terms of difficulty I'd place it closer to grade 6? am I underestimating it's difficulty?

Fur Elise, Grade 4?
No Way! In my opinion, the whole piece, especially the second that third part would be technically demanding for a grade 5 student!

Yes. IMO grade 7 minimum, the length probably makes it 8 or dip

IF my hands are big enough, my teacher would make me learn it immideatly, because It's the right grade, I like it, and my teacher likes it.

I think you're right, it should be classified as a grade 6 piece. Even though the length is post- grade 6, it is not that technically demanding!

4 pages?

then, may i ask what grade is each of these piano pieces:
- Salut D'amour by Edward Elgar
- Humoreske by Dvorak
- Nocturne op.27 no.2 by Chopin
- Nocturne op.9 no.1 by Chopin

ShArOn

This one has been discussed endlessly!!

Mozart Sonata in E flat (K282) - the middle movement "Tempo de minuette I and II" is in Trinity / Guildhall grade 6 this year. Think the third movement's at least a grade harder than the first (adagio)

I wish to retract my previous comments!
It is possible my memory is playing tricks - I had thought it was a lot longer than this, so in light of this thread I went and dug it out, and I have to say I might just as well have never played it before. Indeed perhaps I haven't, so . . .

. . . I have just played through (sight-reading? Chopin ?? Me??? it helps that I know what it's supposed to sound like!) and it really isn't as hard as most of the stuff I'm currently working on, so call it 6, maybe 7.

I was a bit b.o.a.r.d, so I recorded this

Please tell me what you think of it

Well, I'm impressed.

p.s. Why the full stops in "b.o.a.r.d"?

any chance of a sticky on this?

I'm impressed too!!!! How long did it take you to learn that? not the full stops that freak me...it's bored....oh I'm a spelling freak ignore me...don't take any notice

This...poor thread...

Trinity:

Grade 2:
Couperin - Le Petit Rien
A. Scarlatti - Arioso
Tchaikovsky - Old French Song
Diabelli - Bagatelle
Maikapar - Restless Moment

Grade 3:
Bach - Polonaise (the Trinity book says J.S.Bach, but in the AB edition of the AM Notebook it's CPE)
Beethoven - Romance
Galuppi - Allgretto (this has been set at grade 4 ABRSM)
Maikapar - Fleeting Vision

Grade 4:
Fischer - Rigaudon
Kullak - Grandmother's Story
Tchaikovsky - Song of Lark
Telemann - Allegretto
Hook - Rustic Dance
Kirnberger - Les Carillons (this has been set at grade 5 ABRSM)
Bartok - Swine-herd's Song

Add....



Grade 4&5 Burgmuller 25 studies

bump

Fantastic idea!!!! I always want to know the grades of pieces I'm learning, and this will save me from pestering my music teachers so much!!

Is Fur Elise really grade 4? I was told it was grade 6....

Laura

Just reading throught the updated list - very good!

I'm starting to feel slightly inadequate though... I did grade 8 a couple of years ago now and am not sure what standard, in terms of AB performing exams/diplomas I would be at the minute. Obviously I still practise every day and am much better than I was two years ago, but that's all I know, as I'm doing the teaching diplomas rather than the performing ones right now.

Anyway, quite a few pieces I'd consider post grade 8 standard are down as grade 7/8 etc... I know it's all a matter of opinion mostly, but the likes of Chopin's Military Polonaise, the complete Moonlight Sonata, Clair-de-Lune.. I'd consider these far more difficult than most grade 8 pieces I can think of!

I'd consider myself a competent pianist, but in all honesty, I find these pieces difficult to play well. Not beyond me, but certainly difficult They take a lot more work than I put into my grade 8 repertoire, especially the 3rd movement of "Moonlight"... Maybe I am just rubbish?

Does anyone know the grade of the following:

Burgmuller - Study Op.109 No.13 The Storm ?

and

Liszt - Liebestraume No.3?

Thanks,

Laura

Isn't Liszt's Liebestraum on the diploma list? I'm not sure about the others though.

ooops, sorry, it's liebestraum no.2 thats on the diploma list. I'd have thought that no.3 was above grade 8 too though.

I would vote for.....

Moving Le Onde *up* to grade 5, and including Einaudi Passagio and I Giorni included at the same grade.

Moving To a wild rose *down* to grade 5 - I would actually say it's easier than Le Onde.

No list can be definitive and what is hard for one person is easy for another and vice versa, so just my opinion!