abaddon
Mar 28 2007, 03:08 PM
This'll probably start a debate but oh well. I play piano but don't actually do the syllabus tests, and all the people I know who play piano compare with each other based on their syllabus level, so I was wondering what Rachmaninoff's Prelude in C# minor would be leveled as?
possom
Mar 28 2007, 03:11 PM
I played this just after I took grade 8. I would say it's probably dipABRSM if you make a really good job of it, unlike me
abaddon
Mar 28 2007, 03:25 PM
Sorry as I said I don't do the tests so what are dipABRM and LRSM?
Car Expert
Mar 28 2007, 03:28 PM
DipABRSM and LRSM (or diplomas) are basically the levels above Grade 8. See
this page for more details.
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onequirkypianist
Mar 28 2007, 03:29 PM
The diploma levels. What you take after grade 8, should you feel the need to put youself through it all again.

So basically your piece is above grade 8.
carol*piano
Mar 28 2007, 03:49 PM
QUOTE(onequirkypianist @ Mar 28 2007, 04:29 PM)

So basically your piece is above grade 8.
...providing you play it properly and not just bash the h*ll out of it...
abaddon
Mar 28 2007, 04:03 PM
"bashing the h*ll out of it" would have no purpose anyway. Also I was wondering how old are people usually when they are at 8th level, what is a normal age for it?
Car Expert
Mar 28 2007, 04:05 PM
QUOTE(abaddon @ Mar 28 2007, 05:03 PM)

I was wondering how old are people usually when they are at 8th level, what is a normal age for it?
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abaddon
Mar 28 2007, 04:08 PM
Grade 8 just seemed like a good reference point, not a target.
onequirkypianist
Mar 28 2007, 04:21 PM
It took me about 8 years to reach grade 8 standard on the piano if that helps. Piano is my first instrument.
I tried to learn it between grades 7 and 8, I could only do the first section, the rest of it was way beyond my ability at that point. I suppose I could just about do it now, given enough time. I'm about DipABRSM level now.
chopet
Mar 28 2007, 05:55 PM
I agree with others that the rach prelude you mentioned is above grade 8. On your question about the 'normal age for grade 8'.. I know that myself and a number of friends who reached grade eight at around ages 16/17 were told we were a bit young to be on grade 8(?!) and most people I know seem to have been around grade 4 or 5 at about fifteen... Its really different for everyone though.. I mean you hear of some who might get grade eight at age eight, and others who may get grade eight at seventy-eight. I should add though that where I come from we dont get music lessons through school, it all has to be sorted out privately so we wouldnt have as easy access to it that most would have in the uk, so that would make a bit of a difference. It generally seems to take about 8 or 9 years from beginner to grade eight for alot of people it seems though, sometimes more, some may take three years to grade one, but then usually a grade a year after that.
abaddon
Mar 28 2007, 09:51 PM
By normal age I guess I actually meant normal amount of time. But thanks for being helpful and answering quickly!
ad_libitum
Mar 30 2007, 10:31 AM
I have this in a book called "Intermediate" pieces - good grief!
I'd hate to see what they class as advanced
One of those ones I can "hash" through, but it's a great piece if you play it properly!
abaddon
Mar 30 2007, 09:25 PM
Yeah, my copy of it is from a 1940s book of music foolishly labeled "Elementary Piano pieces"
Roseau
Mar 30 2007, 09:29 PM
QUOTE(abaddon @ Mar 30 2007, 09:25 PM)

Yeah, my copy of it is from a 1940s book of music foolishly labeled "Elementary Piano pieces"
This sounds a bit like the French system. I thought "élémentaire" meant beginners until I discovered that you had "préparatoire 1, préaparatoire 2, débutant 1, and débutant 2," before you got to élémentaire.
JeSs-Is-A-MuSiChOLiC
Mar 31 2007, 10:14 AM
QUOTE(abaddon @ Mar 28 2007, 04:03 PM)

"bashing the h*ll out of it" would have no purpose anyway. Also I was wondering how old are people usually when they are at 8th level, what is a normal age for it?
I just did it on monday at the age of 16, I'm rather proud of that

It varies so much, I would estimate it would take 7-8 years to get there if somebody sat all/most of the grades. I skipped G3 though
Kawai
Apr 3 2007, 06:40 PM
Here you can find your piece, if you search for it. You can see the level in the description. In that case it's level 8.
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