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cellocase
I'm getting myself in a right old muddle about antiphony.

Can anyone give me a concise definition?

Music AS tomorrow and slightly panicking...
BBTOTW
Antiphony - The alteration of two or more contrasting groups of instruments or singers smile.gif
Car Expert
1. alternate or responsive singing by a choir in two divisions.
2. a psalm, verse, etc., so sung; antiphon.
3. a responsive musical utterance.

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cellocase
QUOTE(BBTOTW @ Jun 3 2007, 06:57 PM) *

Antiphony - The alteration of two or more contrasting groups of instruments or singers smile.gif

Still slightly confused.....do you mean alternation? If not, can you explain?
Celeste
Excuse my simplicity, but can it not be used when a group of instruments is split in 2, so that there is sound coming from two different places? Hard to explain... wacko.gif
nicki_flute
QUOTE(Miss Ross @ Jun 3 2007, 08:15 PM) *

Excuse my simplicity, but can it not be used when a group of instruments is split in 2, so that there is sound coming from two different places? Hard to explain... wacko.gif

Yes, it creates like a stereo effect.

BBTOTW's definition is what is in the Rhinegold AS music book which is syllabus specified.
cellocase
QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Jun 3 2007, 08:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Miss Ross @ Jun 3 2007, 08:15 PM) *

Excuse my simplicity, but can it not be used when a group of instruments is split in 2, so that there is sound coming from two different places? Hard to explain... wacko.gif

Yes, it creates like a stereo effect.

BBTOTW's definition is what is in the Rhinegold AS music book which is syllabus specified.

But is it alteration or alternation?

And if it's alteration, can someone please explain? eek.gif
Aquarelle
I remember being taught that antiphony existed for the first time as a result of the fact that in St Mark's church in Venice there were choir stalls or perhaps balconies, I'm not sure which, on opposite sides of the church. Sixteenth century composers took advantage of this and used 2 choirs alternately. I'm not sure after all these years how accurate this is but it rings a bell. Antiphonal treatment is certainly alternating the music between two groups of instrumentalists and / or singers.
scoobydog
Imagine a church with two balconies opposite each other. On each balcony there is a group of trumpets. You are sitting in the middle of the two balconies, underneath. Sometimes the trumpets play together, sometimes they have a kind of "conversation" where the music passes back and forth between them. That's antiphony, or antiphonal music. Listen to the brass music of Gabrieli for good examples of it - two (or more) brass choirs playing together and in antiphony.



Think Aquarelle and myself were posting at the same time there!
Robodoc
Isn't Antiphony a character in a play by Arisophanes?
cellocase
Thank you - everyone - makes much more sense now.

And Robodoc - I'm not sure, but I don't think I'd be able to find an example of that in the music if called to.... tongue.gif
Manek
"Call and Response"
maggiemay
It's what happens when half the choir has the wrong music
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cellocase
QUOTE(maggiemay @ Jun 4 2007, 06:37 PM) *

It's what happens when half the choir has the wrong music
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Isn't that cachophony? biggrin.gif
maggiemay
QUOTE(cellocase @ Jun 4 2007, 07:49 PM) *

QUOTE(maggiemay @ Jun 4 2007, 06:37 PM) *

It's what happens when half the choir has the wrong music
tongue.gif

Isn't that cachophony? biggrin.gif

you're probably right !
chocolatedog
And I thought "antiphony" was a person who didn't like things or people which/who aren't genuine.......... unsure.gif tongue.gif
Saxophonist
*groans*
but basically, its call and response
Ewanh
Excellant answer Maggie may!

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I'm reminded of a definition of perfect pitch "the ability to throw a banjo accurately into a skip from 30 feet away".

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BachPensioner
QUOTE(cellocase @ Jun 4 2007, 07:49 PM) *

QUOTE(maggiemay @ Jun 4 2007, 06:37 PM) *

It's what happens when half the choir has the wrong music
tongue.gif

Isn't that cachophony? biggrin.gif

Isn't that cats on opposite fences (usually at 3am) rolleyes.gif
IF so - what is dogophony?
Celeste
Pehaps it's when there's a dog inside a house and a cat on the window sill outside.

Sorry, a bit off topic now. Hope your exam went ok cellocase smile.gif
cellocase
QUOTE(Miss Ross @ Jun 8 2007, 12:25 PM) *

Pehaps it's when there's a dog inside a house and a cat on the window sill outside.

Sorry, a bit off topic now. Hope your exam went ok cellocase smile.gif

Yes, it was more-or-less okay. Listening wasn't as good as I usually do, but hopefully still okay?
Only two more exams to go now....though almost the whole year have finished exams, it's just us poor sods doing further maths! our own fault, I suppose...
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