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PianoSecrets-x
Has anyone read this article?

Should we simplify spelling?

What do you all think about it?

In my opinion I think it is an utterly stupid idea, and agree completely with Vivian Cook. Although it does take rather longer to read Marsha's side of the argument due to her bizarre spellings!! Surely it would be a better idea just to try and improve the quality of the standard of teaching of English as it is to children, and non-natives, rather than 'dumbing down' the spelling!! blink.gif I'd be horrified if I opened a book and had to try and read it when all the words were spelt with missing vowels etc. just so they were 'easier to read'!
SarahSax1986
I like it how you write a post about spelling and how you think everything should be spelt right, yet you make a spelling mistake yourself tongue.gif
maggiemay
yeh I for' i' wuz a loada rubish to

de articul not piannasecretsis speling I mene
Miss Ross
QUOTE(maggiemay @ Jul 10 2007, 07:46 PM) *

yeh I for' i' wuz a loada rubish to

de articul not piannasecretsis speling I mene



laugh.gif I agree
PianoSecrets-x
QUOTE(SarahSax1986 @ Jul 10 2007, 07:46 PM) *

I like it how you write a post about spelling and how you think everything should be spelt right, yet you make a spelling mistake yourself tongue.gif


Oh shush!! It's not as if i'm trying to change the whole bloomin' English language!! tongue.gif




What did I spell wrong?
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QUOTE(maggiemay @ Jul 10 2007, 07:46 PM) *

yeh I for' i' wuz a loada rubish to

de articul not piannasecretsis speling I mene


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sbhoa
QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 07:49 PM) *



What did I spell wrong?
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dumbing
SarahSax1986
This reminds me of this little passage

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The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as 'Euro-English.'

In the 1st year, 's' will replace the soft 'c'. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be dropped in favour of 'k'. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing public enthusiasm in the 2nd year when the troublesome'ph' will be replaced with 'f' This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, public akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expected to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will encourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al will agre that the horibl mes of the silent 'e' in the language is disgrasful and it should go.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to replasing 'th' with 'z'and 'w'™ with 'v'

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary 'o' kan be droped from vords kontainin 'ou'and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl of difikultis and evirun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.
PianoSecrets-x
Oopsie tongue.gif
SarahSax1986
QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:04 PM) *

Oopsie tongue.gif

Don't you mean 'oop-c' ? tongue.gif
PianoSecrets-x
QUOTE(SarahSax1986 @ Jul 10 2007, 08:00 PM) *

This reminds me of this little passage

QUOTE
The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as 'Euro-English.'

In the 1st year, 's' will replace the soft 'c'. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be dropped in favour of 'k'. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing public enthusiasm in the 2nd year when the troublesome'ph' will be replaced with 'f' This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, public akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expected to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will encourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al will agre that the horibl mes of the silent 'e' in the language is disgrasful and it should go.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to replasing 'th' with 'z'and 'w'â„¢ with 'v'

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary 'o' kan be droped from vords kontainin 'ou'and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl of difikultis and evirun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.



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QUOTE(SarahSax1986 @ Jul 10 2007, 08:06 PM) *

QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:04 PM) *

Oopsie tongue.gif

Don't you mean 'oop-c' ? tongue.gif


Oh darn, it's this new fangled way of spelling, you see tongue.gif
SarahSax1986
I also particularly like this one that I have just remembered and searched for...

QUOTE
Let's face it, English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant, nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France. Sweetmeats are candies, while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.

We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square, and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write, but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce, and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, two geese -- one moose, two meese? And one index, two indices?

Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend, that you comb through annals of history but not through a single annal? If you have a collection of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why don't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? If you wrote a letter, did you brote your tongue?

Sometimes I think all English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital; ship by truck, and send cargo by ship; have noses that run and feet that smell; park on driveways and drive on parkways?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and wise guy are opposites? How can overlook and oversee be opposites, while quite a lot and quite a few are alike? How can the weather be hot as h3ll one day and cold as h3ll another.

Have you noticed that we talk about certain things only when they are absent? Have you ever seen a horseful carriage or a strapful gown? Met a sung hero or experienced requited love? Have you ever run into someone who was combobulated, gruntled, ruly or peccable? And where are all those people who ARE spring chickens or who WOULD hurt a fly?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out, and in which an alarm clock goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race (which, of course, isn't a race at all).

That is why, when the stars are out they are visible, but when the lights are out they are invisible.

And why, when I wind up my watch, I start it, but, when I wind up this essay, I end it.
hazel
Bizarre.....
PianoSecrets-x
QUOTE(SarahSax1986 @ Jul 10 2007, 08:08 PM) *

I also particularly like this one that I have just remembered and searched for...

QUOTE
Let's face it, English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant, nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France. Sweetmeats are candies, while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.

We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square, and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write, but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce, and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, two geese -- one moose, two meese? And one index, two indices?

Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend, that you comb through annals of history but not through a single annal? If you have a collection of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why don't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? If you wrote a letter, did you brote your tongue?

Sometimes I think all English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital; ship by truck, and send cargo by ship; have noses that run and feet that smell; park on driveways and drive on parkways?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and wise guy are opposites? How can overlook and oversee be opposites, while quite a lot and quite a few are alike? How can the weather be hot as h3ll one day and cold as h3ll another.

Have you noticed that we talk about certain things only when they are absent? Have you ever seen a horseful carriage or a strapful gown? Met a sung hero or experienced requited love? Have you ever run into someone who was combobulated, gruntled, ruly or peccable? And where are all those people who ARE spring chickens or who WOULD hurt a fly?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out, and in which an alarm clock goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race (which, of course, isn't a race at all).

That is why, when the stars are out they are visible, but when the lights are out they are invisible.

And why, when I wind up my watch, I start it, but, when I wind up this essay, I end it.



I love that, it's really cool!

See, that's why I love languages! There's soo much to learn, yet none of it really makes any sense! tongue.gif
skylark
QUOTE(hazel @ Jul 10 2007, 08:09 PM) *

Bizarre.....

biggrin.gif Yes I thought so too, but I didn't like to say anything tongue.gif


Never mind PianoSecrets-x, you're very loveable even if you wouldn't win the Most Accurate Speller Award biggrin.gif And you'd probably come 2nd anyway, you only made the odd error, and we all do that from time to time biggrin.gif
PianoSecrets-x
QUOTE(skylark @ Jul 10 2007, 08:21 PM) *

Never mind PianoSecrets-x, you're very loveable even if you wouldn't win the Most Accurate Speller Award biggrin.gif And you'd probably come 2nd anyway, you only made the odd error, and we all do that from time to time biggrin.gif


Hehe, thanks blush.gif tongue.gif Is there a most loveable poster award? wink.gif

It's not my fault dumber has a stupid silent 'b' in it anyway. It's a silly word!! tongue.gif I'll have you know, i'm a very good speller!! tongue.gif I got through to the regional rounds of this a few years ago!! biggrin.gif ph34r.gif
skylark
QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:26 PM) *

I got through to the regional rounds of this a few years ago!! biggrin.gif ph34r.gif

How BIZARRE ! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif


QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:26 PM) *

Hehe, thanks blush.gif tongue.gif Is there a most loveable poster award? wink.gif

I think it would be a good idea but it seemed to upset a few people didn't it ph34r.gif unsure.gif biggrin.gif
PianoSecrets-x
QUOTE(skylark @ Jul 10 2007, 08:35 PM) *

QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:26 PM) *

I got through to the regional rounds of this a few years ago!! biggrin.gif ph34r.gif

How BIZARRE ! rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif


Yep, tell me about it! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(skylark @ Jul 10 2007, 08:35 PM) *

QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:26 PM) *

Hehe, thanks blush.gif tongue.gif Is there a most loveable poster award? wink.gif

I think it would be a good idea but it seemed to upset a few people didn't it ph34r.gif unsure.gif biggrin.gif


Just 'cause they were jealous 'cause they couldn't win! tongue.gif
skylark
QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:37 PM) *

Just 'cause they were jealous 'cause they couldn't win! tongue.gif

That would surely be too B-I-Z-A-R-R-E laugh.gif





Hint: read your first post! biggrin.gif
Oddball
Sounds like Newspeak to me...
PianoSecrets-x
QUOTE(skylark @ Jul 10 2007, 08:43 PM) *

QUOTE(PianoSecrets-x @ Jul 10 2007, 08:37 PM) *

Just 'cause they were jealous 'cause they couldn't win! tongue.gif

That would surely be too B-I-Z-A-R-R-E laugh.gif





Hint: read your first post! biggrin.gif


Oop-c rolleyes.gif blush.gif
skylark
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