After all, we now have flute, clarinet, bassoon and oboe threads! And the recorder is a great instrument!

Continuing(Ish!) from the CISD discussion, What wood do you have your recorders in? And why? (I think thats were we got to anyhow )

I don't have a wooden recorder but I want one so will be interested in the answer

and don't bassoons also have their own thread?



Bassoon

Clarinet

Oboe

Flute

*Edits post* That one has been submerged for quite a while now though!

My first three wooden recorders were inherited: a bubinga wood treble and palisander wood descant and treble.

Then I saw a pearwood descant listed among the toys on e-bay, and bought that.

Then I tried out a cherrywood tenor, fell in love with the sound and feel of it, and bought that.

er...that's it...for now...

Rottenburgh Ebony treble and descant. Totally love them.

Oh dear! Not much hope then! *Is considering buying Rosewood Treble*

Bear in mind that at the time I inherited the first ones, I had three plastic recorders - a descant, a treble and a sopranino all of which I'd had from childhood.

But somehow since then, more plastic recorders have got bought too....nine of them....

I have a treble...no idea what it is though. Just the standard normal one I think .

Which make is it?

No idea, 302 rings a bell?

Your Yamaha? The one that looks like my Yamaha you used at Chester?

I can't remember your one, I think it's Yamaha yeah.

I've got a 302 tenor which works beautifully, and a 302 treble which works beautifully when it doesn't start 'gumming up', which it always seems to want to do after a while...

The only recorders I have at the moment are an Aulos Descant and Sopranino, and the bane of my parents life they are too!

I have a pearwood descant (my treble, tenor and bass are plastic - Aulos, Dolmetsch and Woodnote respectively).
During this week I have a visit to the London Recorder Centre and I'm going to get a garklein because they are too ikkle to resist. I was going to get the Aulos plastic one...but I think if I'm buying it for the beautiful loveliness, I should buy a wooden one. They have a pearwood one listed on the website...
My eventual aim is to have the treble and tenor in pearwood in the same range as my existing descant. It's the Dolmetsch Academy range so nothing too fabulous, just a decent wooden recorder. I figure that by the time I'm ready for something fantabulous like a handmade, I'll be able to afford it, ha ha ha! But in the meantime I shall get myself something good-but-affordable!
The treble may happen soon as I expect after the shopping trip my husband will talk me in to making the purchase (especially as Dolmetsch now have on their website that online purchasing is 'coming soon).

I know there is absolutely no need for the woods or the range to match, I'm just deeply attracted to the idea Of course, it might all change once I have the chance to try some out...intellectually, I'm attracted to boxwood as the 'traditional' recorder wood, but I've never knowingly heard it. I do sense this shopping trip could be disasterous in an absolutely wonderful way

'Boxwood'...

Palisander sopranino (my new baby); boxwood descant; olivewood treble ; boxwood tenor plus Yamaha 302 descant, treble, tenor, bass and a few others.

Brilliant! Serious talk about a proper instrument!!!

We have a rather large collection of recorders, all sizes from Garkleine (one plastic) to Bass (two wooden).

My Dolmetsch Conservatoire treble is one of my favourites - but then another is the lovely painted stripey one I received last birthday from one of my daughters. What it lacks in refined tone it makes up for in jolliness. . .

One of our basses isn't actually ours, but we've got it on more-or-less permanent foster care. It's a Hohner, a knick design with a metal (or metal-coated plastic?) knick joint. Quite old, but with an acceptable tone. Does anyone know anything about these?

Trying hard not to notice that EMS have a couple of Great Basses in their Used Instrument Agency at the moment.

Hehe! I'm getting slightly fed up of having no recorder consort to play with.. I'm thinking of starting one at school, but my teacher also wants me to start a clarinet choir! Does anyone know how hard it is to run a recorder consort? Mainly how much time it would take!

Great Basses? I imagine those would be huuuuge!

Yes, but not as huge as a sub bass

I have a Rottenburg Ebony treble and Palisander descant. They're great!

A nice wooden tenor is my next dream......!!

I used to run two when I was in the sixth form. I had one for about 5 or 6 pupils in the 4th and 5th years (years 10 and 11? I'm afraid I'm not good at remembering the new names for the years) plus myself in the 6th form (we had a tiny 6th form and no one else played) and an English teacher. These were all people who could play and who had learnt at primary school from a recorder specialist and we used the full range of recorders from sopranino to bass but not always all of them all the time.

The other group were 1st and 2nd years who were either beginners or had never really had any proper lessons.

The idea was actually my English teacher's but I could play much better than her so she asked me to run it instead. The advantage of having a teacher involved was that I had access to rooms, a teachers' music library to find music and she even took me on a recorder course once aimed at teachers at which I was the only pupil.

It took up two lunchtimes a week, plus a few after school rehearsals before concerts. I really enjoyed doing it.

Sounds fab!


Ooooh!


Dangerous!

I have quite a selection of recorders but almost all plastic, and the one wooden one is totally naff. My favourite is the Yamaha 302 treble.

Plastic sopranino, handmade Dolmetsch boxwood descant and treble, maple tenor and bass - oh, and a pearwood (?) Moeck descant which I really don't like and I only use as a last resort!

Bagpuss has a few scrummy recordery things that she keeps in a wine rack so hopefully she'll be along tomorrow to tell us what they're made of!

That sounds okay then! Though I would probably have to find some descant/tenor only music - I think I'm the only treble player in the school (This of about 1800 kids? )

I only have my plastic Aulo descant at the moment I am STILL waiting for my tenor to arrive only a plastic one but im really excited......

if it doesn't arrive soon i really will have the
(sorry i have been waiting to use that smiley for ages )

There seams to be lots of types of wood recorders can be made of I have heard mention of Cherry, Rose Box, Pear etc, what are the differences, warmer sounds? Cost? quality?

I Recorder!!

Cost and sound quality. Moeck have a neat little summery with pictures on their website: http://www.moeck.com/
Go to "recorders" and then "worth knowing and faq"

I have an aulos sopranino, descant and treble and a wodden tenor (no idea what the make is).
The moeck rosewood recorders look lovely though

We only had one other treble player apart from me and she couldn't read the bass clef. The reason I said we didn't use all the recorders all the time was because I got bored playing bass all the time. (Although the school did have a lovely wooden bass recorder lying unused at the back of the music store cupboard, which I had on permanent loan).

Going back to your own problem, you can get music for three recorders where the first line is for descant, the third line for tenor and the second line is written out twice, once for a treble and once for either a descant or a tenor.

Try dribbling some washing-up liquid down the top, then wash it out under the hot tap. Works brilliantly for stopping mouthpieces gumming up.... don't try it on a wooden recorder, though!!



Piers Adams keeps his in a wine rack, too, so you're in good company, Bagpuss!

Where do you think she got the idea from???

I didn't know that - thanks! Our school does have a fair few recorders lying about - at least one is a tenor, though I'm not sure about the others! They're all plastic though



Is it me, or is there no English translation for the FAQ ?

I couldn't find an English version either, Rosemary!

I have a sopranino, descant and treble in pearwood and a treble and treble and tenor in bubbinga. I have Garklein to Bass in varying numbers in plastic.

I managed to find one, after I got my dictionary out

Click on the flag, then go to recorders, scroll down to Rottenburgh, then theres a nice little picture a bit farther down on the right that takes you to it! Rather long winded way round though!

Well found! - thanks! *goes to have a read*

Sorry, I couldn't post the direct link to the page in English. Maybe they should make the flags a bit bigger.
Still, the language practice should be good for you

Mr Flutecake has just bought a harpsicord on ebay does that give me an excuse to buy a nice recorder to play with it?

Oooh harpsicord! Coolness

I've got a Dolmetsch descant and I keep meaning to bring it to a forum event to see if anyone can tell me what wood it is. Must try and remember to take it to Stalybridge





There's a Saxy Things thread now as well

Mr Flutecake has just bought a harpsicord on ebay does that give me an excuse to buy a nice recorder to play with it?
[/quote]


I'd say it was essential that you buy at least one,and possibly more

Wow, a harpsichord!! I would love one, but no space and no money and no time! *Still wants Rosewood Treble though*

Ahem, so I've been shopping!

I went to the London Recorder Centre today and my list looked like this:
CASE (hard case or roll bag; def for descant - tenor, poss to include bass)
Garklein?
Recorder stand?

I've come out with a 9-slot roll-bag to take my descant (2 piece) treble (3 piece) and tenor (3 piece). My bass will live in the case it came in.
I didn't get a garklein - I want one just for the prettiness, and all they had in the shop were Aulos plastic or the very expensive proper renaissance wooden ones (min. £112). I was kind of hoping for the Kung 'Studio' one in pearwood which is on their website for £57, but they didn't have one. Plastic defeated the object of getting one for the beauty, the ones they had were too expensive for a just-a-pretty thing.

They do stands to order, so I figured I might as well do that through the website if I decide to get one (about half the people at my SRP have one, I think it could be useful in order that my recorders are easily accessible in order to practice more).

Anyway after that (with a little prompting from my husband) I asked to have a look at some trebles. I started with a pearwood Rottenburgh, and had a go on the olive and rose wood ones too. Then we had a brief discussion about budget and I said I was looking more at the pearwood price (~£200) rather than the olive or rosewood price (~£450+).
So I was brought some other recorders to play with, and had a bit of fun though I couldn't think of anything to play except scales (the very helpful lady in the shop got me to to try octaves, i.e. F, F', G, G', A, A' etc which was fine but boy did I have to think a lot to manage it!)

After all that - I've come home with a Kung Studio treble in cherry! It's great as it's obviously totally broken my Dolmetsch + Academy + Pearwood so now I don't have a compulsion for a matching tenor (in the fullness of time).
On the train home I was slightly regretting that - having made my choice for the treble - I didn't say 'Right, now let's talk tenors!' But I won't regret it when the credit card bill comes in, plus it gives me something to look forward to for next year.

The lady who sold me stuff was doing some playing as well; I really really really need to find a teacher (yes, she teaches; she told me! But she's in north London so not my first choice, but she was wonderfully bossy at getting me to try things out!)

A cherrywood Studio? A lovely choice, Maizie.

The tenor is very good too. I can recommend them

I think that street in London is a dangerous one, what with the EMS and Howarths there.... And a secondhand music shop 5 minutes away from Marleybone, yes I think London is dangerous!

What's the name and address of the second-hand music shop Rosemary? I didn't know there was one the last time I went to Howarth's and I'm going to be taking my oboe to be serviced over the summer ...

Wow, sounds like you had a great time. Hope you enjoy your new purchases!

I'm going to London in October for my 21st, I'm quite excited, want to go to all these music shops that people talk about on here. My mum will be with me of course, she is a piano playing lawyer so not terribly enthusiastic about music shops unfortunately and I'd probably get lost on my own.

Back on topic...
I have a three piece Moeck Rottenburgh Maple descant, a three piece Moeck Rottenburgh Boxwood descant and a Moeck Rottenburgh Pearwood treble which I got half price after some idiot took it back to the shop complaining that it wasn't tuned correctly when infact it was perfect - you just need to warm it up!!
And as ever, a collection of plastic sopranino, descants, trebles and tenor. Did have a bass but it was terrible cheap thing so gave it a better home.

Its not too far from the station - 83 Bell Street. Its called 'Archive Bookstore', they are primarily a secondhand bookshop. The basement is stuffed with music though And a rickety old piano so you can try it out if you want.

[quote name='salrec' date='Jul 17 2007, 07:43 PM' post='554246']
Mr Flutecake has just bought a harpsicord on ebay does that give me an excuse to buy a nice recorder to play with it?
[/quote]

I'd say it was essential that you buy at least one,and possibly more
[/quote]

Thank you. The harpsicord is not a figment of my imagination, we are picking it up on Saturday. I am now looking for a nice treble, although I can use my plastic aulos for the time being.

I'm sure you won't regret the Kung Studio treble - I had a harder time selecting what wood to get it in than between makes

I know this is a really stupid question but what key is the descant recorder in?