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AmandaL
QUOTE(BerkshireMum @ Sep 20 2007, 04:09 PM) *
QUOTE(AmandaL @ Sep 20 2007, 03:49 PM) *
Most professional orchestras are still a 60/40 split, men to women - with the exception of the Vienna Phil, which at the last count had just one female, a violist. Is/was she a token gesture, so they weren't prosecuted for discrimination?
I agree with your figures on professional orchestras, but I think if you looked at the age profile you would find far more females than males in the 25-35 age range for violin. When women have a young family they tend to drop out of orchestras whereas the men stay in, which is one reason why there are more men overall.
A lot depends on which orchestras they are in. The LSO has a number of married women with two and even three, sometimes quite young children, and they are still holding down a full-time playing career. All I can say is, poor kids, they must hardly ever see their respective mothers. sad.gif

I think this is partly because the LSO has an allure that many other orchestras don't have and once people get in, they are reluctant to part with their seat. For a start, it's an astoundlingly good orchestra and one that is very difficult to get a permanent position in. Third and fourth year conservatoire students would give their eye-teeth for an opportunity to be an LSO 'dep'. The orchestra's tours are also pretty exotic. Apart from Europe they travel to the Middle East, the Far East and every other year, they perform at the Daytona Beach Music Festival, giving them a two week expenses paid trip to Florida. They also have an annual slot at the Canary Islands Music Festival, sometime around February.

Additionally, once you drop out from orchestral playing entirely (even if only for two or three years), musicians struggle to keep up enough practice that will ensure them a future job. Sad, but unfortunately true.
BerkshireMum
Are you in the LSO, Amanda? It sounds a very exciting life! I'm sure you know a lot more about orchestras than I do. I was mainly basing my remarks on various orchestras I've seen either live or on TV, like the recently televised Proms.

My son plays in the Berkshire Youth Orchestra and there are far more female violinists in that than males, so it's surprising to see that you have so many male students at the moment. However, I'm glad that it is so, as male violinists seem to be a dying breed here.
chris ward65
QUOTE(petrat @ Sep 20 2007, 12:34 PM) *

I teach several boys. When one starts and likes music he will tell his mates and then they want to do the same. We don't have a street cred problem here at all really. An interesting fact that I have found is that all of the best musicians that I have known, and I mean the really brilliant ones now, have been left-handed males.



Yeeaahh!
Big up the left handed males!!!!!
possom
QUOTE(Dulciana @ Sep 23 2007, 01:19 AM) *

I'm probably way off the wall here - and I don't actually even know what I'm talking about - but I'm hoping that it will ring a bell with somebody else.

It's the father's sperm which determines the ### of a child, right? Aren't there certain conditions which make it more or less likely that the child will be male or female? Does one type of sperm have more staying power than the other - ie it survives longer in the womb - and does one seem to have the ability to swim further than the other, but not survive for so long?

Please don't be too hard on me if I'm completely wrong but I was wondering if this difference between male and female might be in any way significant...


Yes you're right, that's how I conceived my daughter anyway but that's another thread, possibly another forum laugh.gif

As for making a difference musically, I find that the boys I teach are much more technical, whereas the girls like music which sounds good expressively as a general rule. I teach 23 girls and 2 boys (piano).
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